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Imagine that, another Democrat liar.
1 posted on 11/13/2014 10:17:22 AM PST by 1raider1
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I doubt Pelosi knows what day it is.


2 posted on 11/13/2014 10:18:10 AM PST by Organic Panic
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It’s OK—he doesn’t know who she is.


3 posted on 11/13/2014 10:18:35 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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Guess she shouldn’t have mentioned him all over this page.

http://www.democraticleader.gov/newsroom/health-insurance-reform-mythbuster-health-insurance-reform-bill-will-result-in-higher-premiums/


4 posted on 11/13/2014 10:18:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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word is out...obies not the only dc heavy who favors this questionable concoction




5 posted on 11/13/2014 10:19:36 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill)
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And here is video of her talking about him.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4514604/nancy-pelosi-mentions-jonathan-gruber-analysis


7 posted on 11/13/2014 10:20:55 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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I’m sure she doesn’t know who he is, which is only another measure of her utter stupidity. She was willing to shove his ideas down the throats of the lockstep dems without having a single clue.


8 posted on 11/13/2014 10:22:32 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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This is your brain.

This is your brain on botox.


11 posted on 11/13/2014 10:23:48 AM PST by Signalman
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What makes you think she’s lying about being clueless as to where the texts of bills come from? She’s already functionally conceded she doesn’t read them before voting on them.


12 posted on 11/13/2014 10:25:21 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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It's quite conceivable that Pelosi doesn't know who Gruber is. He had nothing to do with the House version of the bill.

Recall that the original Obamacare bill was the one passed by the House -- which was a government controlled single-payer version.

However, that bill could not pass the Democrat Senate -- chiefly because Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) defended the insurance industry's role. Gruber was then involved in drafting the Senate version of the bill -- which was the vversion eventually passed into law.

15 posted on 11/13/2014 10:30:28 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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Sure you know him, Nancy! He’s the one that put the “what’s in it” that you told us we wouldn’t know until you passed it.


16 posted on 11/13/2014 10:31:05 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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20 posted on 11/13/2014 10:33:57 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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Pelosi is senile. Senile in the nasty, entitled to lie kind of way. Same as John McCain is. Pelosi is too out of it (mentally) to comprehend what a Jonathan Gruber would throw at her. So......

I am sure Pelosi Congressional chief of staff and her top aids are very familiar with Jonathan Gruber. And they simplified this so that goo goo brains Pelosi could understand it


22 posted on 11/13/2014 10:36:06 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle isI am ap to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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23 posted on 11/13/2014 10:37:40 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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Pelosi is a liar and also dumber than a pile of horse manure.


26 posted on 11/13/2014 10:41:33 AM PST by mulligan (I)
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This post made pursuant to the authority granted me by RULE #5 of “RULES FOR RADICALS” by that darling of the loopy left and obozo's and hillary's mentor, Saul Alinsky!  photo GRUBERpopupcopy_zpsd0a3ec62.jpg

28 posted on 11/13/2014 10:42:35 AM PST by Dick Bachert (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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We don't need any more proof the Pelosi is a lying idiot...and has been for years.

Thank goodness she's a Democrat!!!!!

33 posted on 11/13/2014 10:54:09 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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It’s impossible to promote Marxism w/o lying to the easily duped.

Pray America is waking


41 posted on 11/13/2014 11:19:46 AM PST by bray (Palin/Perry)
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Nancy doesn’t know him but mentions him.Who is stupid now?

https://web.archive.org/web/20100202225120/http://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/factcheck?id=0142

Health Insurance Reform Mythbuster - ‘Health Reform And Insurance Premiums’

12/01/2009

Opponents of health insurance reform continue to spread myths about the recently-passed Affordable Health Care for America Act. For example, they are claiming that health reform would increase premiums for most of America’s families. But the facts continue to knock these myths down—including a brand-new report from the independent Congressional Budget Office.

MYTH: The House health insurance reform bill would result in higher premiums.

FACT: An analysis of the House bill by noted MIT health care economist Jonathan Gruber concludes that the bill would result in lower premiums than under current law for the millions of Americans using the newly-established Health Insurance Exchange – including those who are not receiving affordability credits to help them purchase coverage. (The Health Insurance Exchange is for those without access to affordable employer-sponsored coverage.) As Gruber states: “the premiums that individuals will face in the new exchanges established by this legislation are … considerably lower than what they would face in the non-group insurance market [under current law], due to the market reforms put in place by the House plan, the mandate on individuals to participate regardless of health, and the market economies of new exchanges.”
•The Gruber analysis shows that, on the Exchange, a family at 425 percent of poverty (whose income of $93,710 means that they would receive no affordability credits) would see their premiums reduced by $1,260 or 12 percent compared to current law. Similarly, the Gruber analysis shows that, on the Exchange, an individual at 425 percent of poverty (whose income of $46,030 means that they would receive no affordability credits) would see their premiums reduced by $470 or 12 percent.
•The annual savings are much larger for lower income populations that receive affordability credits. Under the House bill, when the bill’s affordability credits are taken into account, a family at 275% of poverty (income of $60,640) would save $5,030, or 47 percent in premiums compared to current law and a family at 175 percent of poverty (income of $38,590) would save $9,050 or 84 percent in premiums compared to current law.
•Gruber also points out that, even as individuals and families on the Exchange are paying less, they will be getting more:
•The coverage those on the Exchange get under the House plan would be better than today’s typical coverage in the non-group market.
•For example, it would protect individuals and families from high out-of-pocket costs.
•That’s in addition to other consumer protections in the bill – like ending discrimination based on pre-existing conditions and guaranteeing that your coverage won’t be dropped or watered down when you get sick or need it most.

New CBO Analysis
•Furthermore, for the vast majority of Americans who get their health insurance in the employer-sponsored group market, the Congressional Budget Office has just released an estimate that, under the quite similar Senate bill, premiums would either be reduced or stay the same. Specifically, for the millions in the employer-sponsored large group market, premiums would be reduced by up to 3 percent or stay the same. And for all Americans, copays would be eliminated for preventive care and out-of-pocket expenses would be capped.
•Like Gruber, CBO found that for Americans using the non-group market, their coverage would significantly improve under the Senate bill. The CBO data indicate that the Senate bill would reduce premiums by 14 to 20 percent for people in the non-group market when comparing plans that provide equivalent coverage.

For the Gruber analysis, please click here.

For the CBO analysis, please click here.


42 posted on 11/13/2014 11:24:45 AM PST by COUNTrecount (There's no there there.)
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Pelosi will deny knowing obama before the end of 2015.


44 posted on 11/13/2014 1:21:56 PM PST by clearcarbon
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