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To: fatnotlazy

I am in a debate on an international forum, a guy equated the Berlin Wall to building a border fence between the US and Mexico.

His position is that the Berlin Wall was built to keep capitalists out, not East Berliners in.

History in revision.

What makes it even worse is that the guy is a US Citizen living in the USA.


4 posted on 11/08/2014 7:38:17 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Held my nose to vote.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

***His position is that the Berlin Wall was built to keep capitalists out, not East Berliners in.***

Vladimer Posner said the same thing years ago on RADIO MOSCOW (short wave). Look at how the towers and barbed wire are stationed and placed. It would be like Leavenworth or BIG MAC designed to keep people out, instead of IN if that claim were so.

And yet, the ONLY people I ever heard of being shot were East Berliners trying to flee East Berlin.

There was a famous series of photos in LIFE many years ago as the wall was being built.
An East German soldier is guarding an open area to keep people from fleeing.
He looks around, sees no one, drops his submachine gun and flees to the West.


7 posted on 11/08/2014 7:47:22 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
History in revision.

as a 22 tear old, I spent a day in East Berlin 1973. Rather than go in via the safe and predictable Check Point Charlie, I went in via subway at the one "open" station accessible from W Berlin.

I can assure you, the wall was not to keep capitalism out. It was to keep freedom out

And the day was such an eye opener to this long hair ersatz hippie, I never made a Democrat vote since !

8 posted on 11/08/2014 8:03:27 AM PST by llevrok (I fear the US government more than I do al Qaeda)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“I am in a debate on an international forum, a guy equated the Berlin Wall to building a border fence between the US and Mexico.

His position is that the Berlin Wall was built to keep capitalists out, not East Berliners in.”

Utter and complete nonsense. Even the GDR admitted they had to stop the bleeding of people leaving from the hole in Berlin.

Comparing a US Border wall to the Berlin Wall the proper analogy is, putting windows and doors in your house compared to putting a dungeon in the basement. Its moral to keep unwanted people out, immoral to trap people inside.


13 posted on 11/09/2014 4:04:04 AM PST by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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