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To: BroJoeK
If you're suggesting the scientific establishment is as pure as the driven snow you're either a fool or a liar. After puking such drivel on this thread, it's my considered opinion the rest of your screed is suspect and not to be taken seriously.

Get back to me when you can offer a plausible explanation for hundreds of accounts; not myths or legends the scientific establishment would have you believe, but ACCOUNTS of deluges from around the world. While you're at it and in your spare time, explain the carcasses of millions of Mega fauna along with other detritus found in the arctic, as well as numerous other sites and regions around the world.

If you're new to this subject, take your time and avoid most of the "prestigious" journals and academic effluent. They've all gotten severe cases of whiplash turning away from the obvious. Shame on them.

Anyhow, this being Sunday, I have places to go, like church for example so I'll leave you to your studies until later. Enjoy.

61 posted on 11/09/2014 7:12:42 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (What part of "Fundamentally transforming the United States of America" don't the LIV understand?)
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To: ForGod'sSake; SunkenCiv
"If you're suggesting the scientific establishment is as pure as the driven snow you're either a fool or a liar. After puking such drivel on this thread, it's my considered opinion the rest of your screed is suspect and not to be taken seriously."

Not very loving, eh?

I think you've driven more away from your cause than attracted with your ranting on this thread.

My advice to you, stay off the GGG threads if you can't conduct yourself in a mannered fashion.

64 posted on 11/09/2014 4:18:43 PM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: ForGod'sSake; SunkenCiv; Vermont Lt; blam
ForGod'sSake: "If you're suggesting the scientific establishment is as pure as the driven snow you're either a fool or a liar."

Sorry, but so far as I can tell, if there is a "fool or a liar" on this thread, it would be you, pal.
As for scientists being "pure as the driven snow", I can't even guess what that means -- natural-science is what it is, scientists do what they do, and that is to investigate the natural realm, using various assumptions, methodologies and disciplines.
And scientists discipline each other through publishing their findings, peer reviews and repeatable experiments.

Somebody actually keeps track of how many scientific papers get published each year these days, and it is literally in the millions.
Of those, several dozen (=.01%) are typically discovered later to have been seriously mistaken or downright fraudulent.
This suggests that the other 99.99% of scientific papers are at the very least good-faith, honest efforts to report what the physical evidence reveals.
Does that make all those scientists "pure as the driven snow"?
No, of course not, since every scientist is merely human and like the rest of us they all make mistakes.
But the scientific discipline itself is intended, and usually achieves, first preventing mistakes from being published and second, reviewing and correcting such mistakes as do, from time to time, slip through.

Finally, we should note there are many questions for which science still has no direct confirmed answer.
In all these questions there is plenty of room for scientific debates and reinterpretations based on new data, etc.
These debates often last for years & decades before the weight of evidence seems to confirm one theory or another -- until some new evidence is discovered and interpreted.

So, none of this is "pure as the driven snow", but much of it is well among the very best that mere human beings have ever accomplished, and that is saying something.

ForGod'sSake: "After puking such drivel on this thread, it's my considered opinion the rest of your screed is suspect and not to be taken seriously."

But your opinion is far from "considered", since you totally failed to even identify the alleged "drivel" upon which you've heaped such scorn.
Instead, you've blathered nonsense about "pure as the driven snow", and then projected your own nonsense into my views.
Such actions move you, pal, towards that dreaded category of "a fool or a liar".

ForGod'sSake: "Get back to me when you can offer a plausible explanation for hundreds of accounts; not myths or legends the scientific establishment would have you believe, but ACCOUNTS of deluges from around the world."

So why are you being silly?
Of course there are hundreds of accounts, and there is serious geological evidence for thousands of ancient natural disasters, from floods and earthquakes to massive volcanic eruptions, asteroid strikes and world-covering ice ages.
The fossil evidence shows that some of these ancient disasters wiped out up to 90% of all species on earth, after which it took tens of millions of years for life on Earth to fully recover, and even then, was never the same as before.

So nearly everybody today has heard of the asteroid which wiped out the dinosaurs, but that is just one such event -- there were many others.

However, in all this geological & fossil evidence of massive floods and other natural disasters, there is no scientific evidence -- zero, zip, nada -- of a single, relatively recent world-covering flood such as described in Genesis.
Scientifically speaking, that particular flood didn't happen.

Of course, my considered opinion is: such a detail is irrelevant to the God's promise, made in Genesis 8:21-22.

ForGod'sSake: "While you're at it and in your spare time, explain the carcasses of millions of Mega fauna along with other detritus found in the arctic, as well as numerous other sites and regions around the world."

These are all evidence of many past floods & other natural disasters, spread over many millions of years.
They are not evidence of a single world-covering flood just a few thousand years ago.

At least that's what the scientific evidence tells us.

ForGod'sSake: "If you're new to this subject, take your time and avoid most of the "prestigious" journals and academic effluent.
They've all gotten severe cases of whiplash turning away from the obvious. Shame on them."

If you wish to produce evidence to support such a blanket accusation, I'll consider it.
Until then, let's tell the truth, shall we?, and name your charge what it really is: rubbish.

The model below represents one of several mammoths found in Siberian ice.

The mammoth calf below fell into a Siberian lake around 39,000 years ago.
No evidence has been found to suggest it was buried, along with the rest of its herd, in a world-covering flood just six thousand years ago.

66 posted on 11/10/2014 3:53:20 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective..)
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