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To: H.Akston
Besides the non-sequitur

I'm sorry you missed the point, but I was quite clear. But I'll try again. You imply that Perot drew enough votes away from Bush 1 to get Clinton elected. I don't believe anything similar can happen in 2016 because I don't believe Bush or Christie will win with or without a general election opponent on his right. We've been through this in 1992, 1996, 2008, 2012 - even 2000 was a victory of a moderate Republican by the slightest of margins. And your advice is to keep on doing what doesn't work, even though it won't be good for conservatism even if it does work. Got it, thanks - but no.

What do you expect them to do? There are only 38% tru-cons in the country. Moderate votes, what you call "watered-down Democrats who just might go for a liberal Republican" are going to have to be sought. (am I really having to say this?)

I can't believe you're saying it too, believe me. Poll after poll shows voters are more conservative than the politicians who represent them on social issues, on foreign policy, on fiscal matters - but the GOP does not stand on or defend many of those issues. Instead, the GOP joins the Democrats and the press in demonizing the Tea Party and other groups on the right who do stand firm on these issues. Since the GOP often agrees with the Democrats on these subjects, they simply are not discussed in the general election and voters who may be deeply concerned by illegal immigration and angered by the post-9/11 growth of the federal security bureaucracy do not see these topics as conservative issues at all. Instead, opposition to amnesty or opposition to domestic national security run amok are treated as beyond the pale by both major parties. What are voters supposed to think?

You don't have to like it, you just have to be realistic.

Why use the word "realistic" when you mean "reactionary"? Your idea of realism will have the GOP continuing to nominate people who would have been considered moderate Democrats as recently as the '90s - and continuing to lose. If a GOP which is increasingly just a timid imitator of the Democratic Party doesn't bother you, I'd think the repeated losing might.

Voters on the left are pissed at Obama for not being left enough.

And after the passage of the ACA, they are clearly wrong. Are you seriously trying to say that because Obama was not able to satisfy every leftist radical, the two-party system has done it's job?

I'll believe the GOP is indistinguishable from the Democrats, when Justice Scalia becomes indistinguishable from Justice Ginsburg.

Scalia was nominated to the SC by Reagan - and someone with his views would not be nominated by Jeb Bush or Christ Christie.
62 posted on 11/02/2014 2:13:48 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Let’s say that Bush or Christie will lose. That’s a fair assumption. But Who on the right will your third party nominate? And how will that math work?
If there is hope, it lies in the GOP primaries.


63 posted on 11/03/2014 7:11:04 AM PST by H.Akston (It's all about property rights.)
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