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To: Mogger
“And yes, many ideas used in the Constitution did come from the Iroquois nation, which was a confederation of six Indian nations.”

Hard data and references are hereby requested.

Barring appearance of same, we shall be forced to accept the lack of factual basis for your claim the “Iroquois civilization”was used as a significant source of anything during the creation of the Constitution.

It would be interesting to read what documents/sources you might provide to the FR community.

A Ward Churchill promised such, but never delivered.

22 posted on 10/19/2014 8:44:19 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: GladesGuru
Many so-called historical certainties are merely guesses by historians many of whom have a distinctly leftist bent. It has never been proved that American soldiers tried to infect Indian tribes with smallpox or any other deadly disease.

Supposedly there was the case of a British officer named Amherst who tried to give Indians smallpox blankets during the Pontiac War in 1763. There has never been any other evidence put forth of any other troops, American or British, doing something like that.

And for the record, leftist historians generously overestimate the numbers of Indians in N.America at the time of European settlement. Some historians claim there were 15-20 million Indians living north of the Rio Grande at the beginning of European settlement. There are no facts to support that large a number. 2-3 million is more likely.

Did many Indians die from diseases contracted from Europeans? Yes, because they had no immune systems that could counteract the diseases. But European settlers still died in large numbers from diseases as well. That was a risk of normal life for everybody back then. And to be sure, many millions of Europeans died from diseases (Black Death, bubonic plague) that came from other parts of the world. Life was brutish and short back then.

My own experience after reading numerous historical books is that while many historians (even ones identified as liberal) will be truthful in their accounts, a number of them have to be regarded with a grain of salt.

31 posted on 10/19/2014 10:38:27 AM PDT by driftless2
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