Understanding the Risks of Ebola, and What "Direct Contact" Means

The New York Times ^ | October 2, 2014 | Denise Grady

[Ann Archy]

I just saw a scroll on FOX that said an NBC Photographer has Ebola!!!!!!!

[txrefugee]

Did our incompetent CDC ask the Ebola carrier’s girlfriend if they had sex?

And what’s with all these Africans in one apartment? Are they illegals? The government’s refusal to enforce our immigration laws could be lethal for Americans.

[Bigg Red]

mark

[Smokin' Joe]

Ping…

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

[Dqban22]

PARAPHRASING SOCRATES, THE CDC ADMITES THAT ALL THEY KNOW IS THAT THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT EBOLA.

Preventive Medicine Expert: Obama ‘Underplaying’ Ebola Risk
on Breitbart TV 2 Oct 2014

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/10/02/Preventive-Medicine-Expert-Obama-Underplaying-Ebola-Risk

Dr. Elizabeth Lee Vliet, a preventive medical specialist who practices in Texas and Arizona, who has served as Adjunct Associate Professor in Family Medicine at the University of Arizona College of Medicine, Assistant Professor in Family Medicine at Eastern Virginia Medical School, and Medical Director for the Women’s Program at Maryview Hospital accused the government of “underplaying the risk” of the Ebola virus, and seemed to argue that flights from countries with large Ebola outbreaks should not be allowed into the US on Thursday’s broadcast of “The Laura Ingraham Show.”

Dr. Vliet said that the government is not doing everything it could to protect Americans from the virus. Speaking on the prospect of a flight ban and the contention that only individuals who are showing symptoms of the virus can transmit it, she said “viruses mutate and change, and so to say anything with 100% certainty when you are dealing with viruses that change is medically irresponsible.” And that “no one can say with 100% certainty” when someone becomes infectious, and this is the reason why European nations have halted flights from countries like Liberia.
She further wondered why the American recently diagnosed with Ebola was not stopped, asking “why wasn’t he stopped at customs, why wasn’t he screened then, why wasn’t he quarantined as they’re doing in other countries?”

Dr. Vliet also declared that President Obama is “underplaying the risk to Americans, and I think when we have evidence going back to the Reston lab accident in Virginia a couple decades ago, of potential airborne transmission, the Canadian government has said that airborne transmission was strongly suspected [we should be more cautious].”

She reported that Canadian health advisories on the virus scrubbed their mentions of the potential for airborne transmission of the virus even though the data did not change, “I printed out the Canadian public health advisory back in June. There is a statement in their report that airborne transmission was strongly suspected based upon the 2012 Canadian study with a transmission between two species [pigs and monkeys] that were not in physical contact…I just re-printed the Canadian advisory this week, lo and behold, that statement has been taken out…the medical data did not change,” she said.

Follow Ian Hanchett on Twitter @IanHanchett

Posted on 10/03/2014 6:22:11 AM PDT by Dqban22

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The game of Ebola Roulette continues...

*cough* spin *cough* spin *cough* spin…BANG!

Eeeee-bolllll-aaaaaa ping!

Bring Out Your Dead

We’re gonna need

a bigger cart!

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

[Mercat]

On another freeper thread it was explained to me that “airborne” means that no liquid is required. There is however, the droplet which can move up to three feet through the air before dropping to the ground or on a handle etc. i.e., it’s not as easily transmitted as the flu but easier than AIDS. My assumption is that if you sit on the proverbial toilet seat with a lesion on your butt and an active EBOLA suffer had just crapped his pants on that seat, you’re going to get it. So possible but not likely. That being said, I’m ordering masks and gloves and not eating out or traveling by plane while I watch all this.

[Lazamataz]

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[FamiliarFace]

***That being said, I’m ordering masks and gloves and not eating out or traveling by plane while I watch all this.***

I have a family wedding to attend in December, and by then, I expect this virus and others will have ramped up quite nicely by then. I’m wondering if anyone in the airplane will notice my gear.

[Mercat]

Our son is supposed to fly home for Christmas. He thinks we’re all nuts to be concerned. Arrrgggg

[FamiliarFace]

Time will tell, but I’m betting we will be right. Maybe you can get him to take normal hygienic precautions, like washing his hands with soap and water, and using hand sanitizer.

[greeneyes]

That is what troubles me the most. The adamant certainty in their statements. If they just put in some qualifier, then I’d be likely to believe them.