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To: Gamecock
The problem is you don't know that Joel ever denied Jesus. All you know is he stumbled a bit at a question he had a hard time answering for which he later apologized. It is obvious you don't know that Joel does not deny Jesus if you followed his weekly Lakewood services which you can online.

So you have utterly failed to support your accusations by at least a preponderance of evidence and Scripture-based reasoning.

But let me ask you a question. Have you ever denied Jesus? Have you ever been accused of denying Jesus? Have you ever accused or condemned yourself for denying Jesus? Would Jesus condemn you if you did? NO. He has promised that because of Jesus' perfect and eternal sacrifice on the cross he will "remember your sins and iniquities no more."

"Wherein you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you that judge do the same things" (Rom 2:1).

I honestly believe you don't know what you are talking about but you've joined modern-day Pharisees in the sport of attacking and trying to take down a fellow Christian and minster. It may seem harmless enough to you to do this on FR and all. But God sees this. He says "touch not my anointed and do my prophets not harm." He doesn't say that in vain. I believe God loves you, but if you don't stop this stuff, I think maybe God will have to, possibly with a "strong hand".

The Bible says your actions already leave you self-condemned, which is unnecessary because the Bible says that we as Gods people are under no condemnation.

"For the Lord spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people" Isaiah 8:11.

If I'm right and this happens to you, try to remember that God is not condemning you are even punishing you. He's simply trying to deliver you from judging and condemning others so you will be a happier, more joyful person, not one who feels self-condemned.

133 posted on 09/21/2014 5:39:14 PM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate over unjust law & government in the forum of ideas)
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To: PapaNew
He did so. I posted it for you once before and you choose to ignore the evidence.

BTW, you know a few days later he apologized to his gathering for doing so, don't you?

If he didn't deny Jesus why did he apologize for doing so?

134 posted on 09/21/2014 7:08:47 PM PDT by Gamecock
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