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Posted on 09/19/2014 1:21:41 PM PDT by servo1969
Mega-church pastor Joel Osteen may lead the largest Protestant church in the United States, but a recent Facebook post shows he might need to go back to Sunday school.
A Monday post to his verified Facebook page, Joel Osteen ministries, read: “God said in Numbers 11:23, ‘Moses, is there any limit to My power?’ He was saying, ‘Moses, you saw Me part the Red Sea, stop the sun for Joshua, keep three Hebrew teenagers safe in a fiery furnace, don’t you realize that I can bring water without rain?’ There’s no limit to God’s power.”
As of Friday afternoon, the post had over 317,000 likes and 52,000 shares.
There’s just one problem: According to the Bible, Moses was dead before Joshua asked God to stop the setting of the sun, and long before the three Hebrew youths were burned in the furnace.
The Old Testament Book of Joshua explains that God appointed Joshua as Moses’s successor after Moses’s death (the first sentence literally begins, “After the death of Moses…”), who led the Israelites into battle against the Amorites, during which he commanded the sun and the moon not to move. “So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the people had revenge upon their enemies,” (Joshua 10:13).
The story of the “three holy children,” as the Hebrew youths are sometimes known, is told in the Old Testament Book of Daniel. According to the passage, the Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar, who reigned around the 6th century B.C. (long, long after the projected time of Moses), ordered his people to worship a large golden idol, “and whoever does not fall down and worship shall be cast immediately into the midst of a burning fiery furnace,” (Daniel 3:6). The three Hebrew youths refused to worship the idol and were thrown into the furnace, but were not burned.
In many Christian traditions this passage is particularly important because it is understood to prefigure Christ — when the king asked whether the three were burned, one of his counselors replied “I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire; and they are not hurt, and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God,” (Daniel 3:25).
Some of Osteen’s followers noticed the error, with one commenter asking “Bro, do you even Scripture?”
Osteen, who has neither a bachelor’s nor a divinity degree, lives in a $10 million dollar mansion in Houston, Texas, and has an estimated net worth of $40 million. Nearly 50,000 people attend services at Lakewood Church every week, and millions more watch his televised sermons. Lakewood, whose “central campus” is a 16,000-seat arena, is notable for its total lack of crosses and other Christian symbols or imagery.
*****You have already won the lottery. You live in the best nation, in the best of times. You have more blessings than 95% of the people on earth. A poor man here in America is better off than most people in history have ever lived. How many TVs do you have in your house?****
Isn’t it interesting how “rich” is always more than we have?
Jesus told us not to seek for the things of this world, but to seek FIRST then kingdom of God and HIS righteousness.
THEN everything we NEED will be given.
Not everything we want or lust for.
So what is your point ..?? So he has a nice house .. I’m not envious of that .. it doesn’t even matter to me. I believe the Osteen’s have written quite a few books - and that can bring in a lot of bucks.
So, if you want a $40 million dollar house - you’ll have to learn how to write books - which consists of hours and hours of research; hours and hours of writing and re-writing, etc., instead of sitting at a computer and whining about what other people have.
ENVY: If you let it .. envy will eat you up to the point it will ruin your health .. and I know that first hand. A former co-worker was so envious of other people, it cost her her eyesight; and also her job. The saddest part; she was very talented. She had a really lovely singing voice, could play the guitar and the piano .. and she was amazing at organizing events. Of the 4 things, I was only good at 1 of them. But .. instead of her using the gifts God had given her, she was envious of everyone else. Very sad.
Envy is a very dangerous thing.
Thanks for your kind words.
When my son of 37 died from several cancers (caused by years and years of drug use), I was inconsolable for a short time.
However, God has a way of putting things into perspective. One evening while I was whining and complaining about the fact that my son had “rejected” all my attempts at discipline, God loudly reminded me: “He didn’t reject me!”
I stopped grieving that day.
Very good point.
Neither. The Apostles wrote many times about false teachers. Which one were they?
Osteen says he would have no problem attending a homosexual "wedding." Explain, please, how that POV from a "pastor" lines up with Scripture.
THAT is disgusting.
I pray, again, that you will stop this.
You some how managed to leave off the /SARC tag
I’m only replying the rant against him. What do you mean what’s my point?
I didn’t hear him said he’d attend homosexual weddings. A nutty homosexual activist tried to bait him on camera, he evaded and sneak around as no comment... Stop reading your Catholic advocacy blog and get the facts right, okay?
You’re a pastor and you said Osteen he made blatant error? What kind of pastor are you??? Jeremeiah wright kind or Fred Phelps kind?
Whether you heard it or not, he said it.
Here's the video. At 3:43, his wife says, "Sure, I would go". At 3:48, Osteen says, "If they were friends of mine, and I respect them, I would certainly go."
Joel Osteen: "I Would Attend A Homosexual Wedding"
" A nutty homosexual activist tried to bait him on camera, he evaded and sneak around as no comment..."
We must not be talking about the same video, since the one I linked to has him giving an outright positive answer. But if he evaded and sneaked around, as you say, in order to avoid giving a direct response, what kind of "pastor" is THAT?
"Stop reading your Catholic advocacy blog"
Now, see, I've told you I'm not Catholic, and here you are calling me a liar because I criticized your boy Osteen. Is he that important to you?
I don't understand these cults of personality. Maybe you lose sight of Jesus because He isn't the one walking around on stage, flashing that slick smile, charming you with those platitudes...I can't say. But it isn't about Osteen; it's about Jesus. And when you find a teacher who isn't Scriptural because he doesn't want to offend people, you should walk away.
" and get the facts right, okay?"
I did, as you can see from the link I provided. What's your opinion of Osteen and his wife being fine with attending a queer wedding?
I just watched the video. Oh it’s Piers Morgan, another homosexual activists trying to trap Osteen’s, yeah right. They said they’d go as a respect. They didn’t say I’d officiate or solemnize their marriage. So what difference does that make? If Elton John would invite you and your whole family to his wedding you’d ride in brand new Gulfstream 650 and free hotel, will you go?
So Osteen's reply is somehow less valid because of the person asking the question? How does that work, exactly?
" They said they’d go as a respect."
As a "respect" for what? For deviants who mess with each other's filthy anal areas and ingest feces, and think that's marriage? What kind of pastor ignores the fact that God calls it an abomination & detestable, and stands up, smiling, "as a respect" for it?
" They didn’t say I’d officiate or solemnize their marriage. So what difference does that make? "
Let me get this straight, now. In your view, it's okay to attend a queer "wedding" as long as you don't officiate? Never mind the fact that attending sanctions it and solemnizes it. Is that right?
"If Elton John would invite you and your whole family to his wedding you’d ride in brand new Gulfstream 650 and free hotel, will you go?"
Seriously?
I'd still have to stand in front of Jesus and answer for it, wouldn't I.....Gulfstream notwithstanding?
Is that how you personally operate? Sell out your values if the goodies are worth it?
Megachruches are megabusinesses that know money and little else, but the sinning sheeple love them.
Your response as if you want to put the abominables to the den of hungry lions, put them in the gallows.
Oh did you like Elton John's music, by the way? Did you watch him perform at princess Diana's last respect?
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So a man of God needs to rehearse his answers before he can speak according to the Bible? Are you really serious?
" Morgan should have picked John Hagee to ask that question."
Osteen and Hagee are both known as pastors, so why would Osteen's answer be different from Hagee's?
"Your response as if you want to put the abominables to the den of hungry lions, put them in the gallows."
Would you like to show me exactly where I said such a thing, or even implied it? Please do.
Unless it's just that you can't take a bald, factual description of the acts engaged in by homosexuals. It is filthy, isn't it? Which is why we wonder about Osteen and his willingness to lend his "respect" to it.
"Oh did you like Elton John's music, by the way? Did you watch him perform at princess Diana's last respect?"
We'll get back to that, but you still have some of my questions to answer, please.
What kind of clergyman gives tacit approval to acts deemed abominable by God?
Do you think it's all right to attend a queer wedding as long as you don't officiate?
Osteen couldn’t lead people out of the rain.
Why the comment that he lives in a $40 million dollar home .. what the heck does that matter ..??
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