Posted on 08/24/2014 6:10:19 AM PDT by right-wing agnostic
In 1948, the argument for the creation of Israel was a moral argument; the argument against the creation of Israel was based on an assessment of Americas national interest. Almost seventy years later Israel is an economic and military powerhouse, with a rapidly growing population, while her traditional enemies are weaker than ever.
At the present time, most of those who argue against the continued existence of Israel attempt to base their arguments on moral grounds. Still, a small and noisy group of conservatives contend that our support for Israel undermines our standing in the region, and threatens our national interests. Philip Giraldi, Mark Perry, and others, continue to advance this argument despite mounting evidence to the contrary.
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Nope, you are 100% wrong.
How about RAND Paul, is he a wing it?
Rand Paul has advocated cutting all aid to Israel. Rand Paul’s foreign policy would have similar results as Obama’s.
I’m pretty sure his position is cutting all foreign aid, Israel is just one of many. He tends to be consistent, not anti-Israel in particular.
He was asked about the Israeli-Palestinian problem and he said that he would cut all aid to both. Without US aid Israel would most likely collapse. So, that is pretty much anti-Israel.
There are also the Realists who are not anti Israel but want to hold Israel's feet to the fire on Palestine because they are strong believers in "linkage", which means there are problems that can't be solved until the Israel-Palistian issue has been solved. For example: sometimes Kissinger is called a self-loathing jew and James Baker has been called an Arabist, and Brent Scowcroft has been called a jew hater. In the past these Realists had been very influential in the GOP on foreign policy, but since the NeoCons rose to power, the realists have been purged.
A couple of academic realists(Mearshimer and Walt) wrote a book a few years ago titled US Foreign Policy and the Israeli Lobby with the primus that sometimes the US makes foreign policy moves really benefit Israel but don't benefit the US. AIPAC is one of the most powerful lobbies.
If you consider that in the GOP there are 3 foreign policy schools: Realists, NeoCons, and Isolationists and in the dem party there are Realists, Liberal Interventionists, and anti-war pacifists.
The Liberal Interventionist dems and NeoCon republicans are the strongest supporters of Israel.
The Realists(R & D) are less supportive of Israel
The antiwar pacifist dems and rightwing isolationists are the least supportive of Israel.
First of all, the anti-war left, like ANSWR and Not In Our Name, are not really pacifists at all. They are only opposed to US involvement in war because of the power differential. The anti-war left has supported every two bit dictator around the world that has been willing to take on the US. The anti-war left are really anti-capitalists.
If you have been paying attention, you will have noticed that the Black Bloc were spotted in Egypt, fighting along side the Muslim Brotherhood and also in Gaza. Of course, it could have been ISIS, since their costumes are the same. Maybe their agenda is overlapping.
For the paleocon views on foreign policy go to The American Conservative and Taki's Magazine.
Conservatives are not anti-Israel! Conservatives are thinking people. Thinking people cannot be against Israel. Israel is doing nothing to Hamas who are constantly lobbing missiles into Israel. Israel is doing nothing to the idiots in Lebanon who are now throwing missiles at Israel also. When they respond to try to stop the missiles, fools claim they are doing something wrong.
I"ll be with those who bless Israel.
In this persons view, and perhaps others, it seems to come from the USS Liberty incident in 1967.
Just that one incident against the backdrop of the last millennium and a half?
Rand Paul is right.
A country that requires billions of dollars in foreign aid every year just to maintain its existence -- more than 65 years after it was founded -- doesn't even qualify as a sovereign nation, as far as I'm concerned.
That’s very telling. People with a military background are likely to know a hell of a lot more about what actually happened there than your typical propagandists in the media.
Could it be, there is another view of US Security, which you are not paying attention to?
There seems to be (seems to be only, I won’t go further than that) that increasingly separates US companies, from US interests.
That is ready to sell US interests globally, while removing the other support, US companies have historically provided to America?
Look at what American companies sell. Loads and loads of stuff. But look where that stuff in made.
It used to be, all of that stuff was make in America.
Now it is mostly made in, and imported to America from, China and other places.
That is a dramatic difference.
American companies which make stuff in China, no longer really support America in my view.
That may be a part of what you are seeing.
Israel seems to have a large interests in American companies. That seems to be, now devoid of a position supporting American workers.
I believe that is a significant, difference.
American companies which do not support Americans, are not really American companies any more.
America needs jobs.
Could be, that is what he is saying.
You might consider that, at the same time, the US and the EU are giving billions of dollars in foreign aid to the Palestinian Authority -- just to maintain its existence.
If the West weren't funding its enemies, I suppose Israel could do without...
So sad that FreeRepublic seems to have been taken over by people like you.
I noticed that you just posted that message without actually refuting what I said.
I suppose we can look forward to 65 years of that, eh?
It there was nothing to refute, it was opinion.
Thanks right-wing agnostic.
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