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I sent this to my kids about my travels.

I thought I would share it.

I don't get into the Muslim situation here, because I don't have the time tonight.

It is significant and I have seen the problems and have lived the problems.

Maybe for another post.

1 posted on 07/27/2014 12:12:01 PM PDT by not2be4gotten.com
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What do they call a “Quarter Pounder with Cheese” in Paris?


2 posted on 07/27/2014 12:17:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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While hitchhiking from Paris (1977) a Frenchman picked me up...he spoke no English but did speak German. He was driving to Switzerland to pick up his French-Canadian girlfriend for a weeks vacation climbing in the mountains around Grindlewald. I got to know them both and I ended up climbing with them for the next week. The interesting thing was, no one could talk to everybody at the same time. I could speak to him in German and to her in English. They could communicate in French. It was fun.


3 posted on 07/27/2014 12:24:29 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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I agree with all your points except #4.


5 posted on 07/27/2014 12:26:57 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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8) The French smoke a lot.

This is true. Especially young women 20 to 30 years old. Nobody really knows why.

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10) French women are not fat.

True. Walking the streets of Paris for a few weeks, this is very apparent. Again, the question is why?

People who smoke are quite often thin. In America, people used to combine these two qualities, to a certain extent. Then, we decided to stamp out smoking. Today, we wonder where all the obesity came from.

It's all quite obvious.

10 posted on 07/27/2014 12:28:46 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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...that French men tend to pee on the sidewalks and that does smell.

A local PBS station is rerunning "Nicolas Le Floch" (set during Louis XV) and is supposed to be fairly historically accurate.

Any way, one of [police inspector] Le Floch's informants is a guy with a screen and bucket. Not that Le Floch hits his mark all the time...

13 posted on 07/27/2014 12:32:35 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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Agree except as to the food. French food is great. Still cook out of my Julia Child cookbook.


15 posted on 07/27/2014 12:33:53 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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My experience too: the French were friendly, generous, smart. I have no idea where the negative stereotypes came from. I have been to France about a dozen times over the last 20 years and I always had a great time and made new friends. If you visit the cemeteries in Normandy and the Muese-Argonne, you will be blown away with the beauty and reverence they have shown for our honored dead.

The only disagreement I have with the author of the piece is that the food is sensational everywhere. If you’re looking for American chow, not too available. If you’re looking fine dining, France is the best.


16 posted on 07/27/2014 12:35:40 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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I spent over ten years in Europe. France is much like the rest of Europe, some people are nice, some are rude. Americans traveling in Europe are the same.

American and Mexican food is easier to find these days than back in the day, but why bother. Even the Brits are putting out fine chow these days if you know how to find it. Indian, Indonesian, Hungarian, etc. places are generally very nice. Frogs and snails were put on this Earth for a purpose, the French have figured this out.

American cars have never sold well in Europe because of how Europeans tax their cars and their gasoline. Maneuvering a ‘63 Buick through medieval villages was never going to work. I’ve tried most of them: Peugeot, Audi, VW, BMV, Lotus. The Lotus was the best except for the mechanics bills.


18 posted on 07/27/2014 12:35:54 PM PDT by centurion316
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I would be interested in seeing that post.


22 posted on 07/27/2014 12:36:52 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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Interesting observations. We had a wonderful time in Paris in 1986. The French people we came in contact with we’re charming and helpful although we had to make an attempt at their language.

My observation, not just in France, is that women who smoke use it for weight control which makes it especially hard to quit.


23 posted on 07/27/2014 12:38:02 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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Thanks, interesting comments!

Have seen quite a few of those 'trikes' here, as an old motorcyclist, I wonder why, but to each his own. Do you see many 2-wheel motorcycles during the winter there? I was under the impression many ride all year round out of necessity-their only vehicle.

No cheddar in the cheese shops? I understand Britons do enjoy their local cheddar--chunnel coach run, maybe?

24 posted on 07/27/2014 12:39:20 PM PDT by W. (Leftists that elected a ThirdWorldPOS 4 Prez can't bitch 'cause their Prez now craps on them!)
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Having been there over 60 times, I would say your opinions will change in several of these categories.


25 posted on 07/27/2014 12:39:58 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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Mostly true. You will not worry about walking down that dark alley at 2 AM.

Unless you are a Jew, or a female in a Muslim area.

26 posted on 07/27/2014 12:40:01 PM PDT by montag813
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I spent some time in Germany last year. The little 2 wheel scooters were catching on, but when you have BMW’s why bother

There were a few Toyota’s and so on, but when you have BMW’s why bother.

French fries are good, sausage and kraut are good, the beer is probably like the French wine. Good, cheap and plentiful, it is what makes it livable.

The big junk food there is Doner Kebap which is just a Gyro.


28 posted on 07/27/2014 12:42:58 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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"The French are rude/unhelpful/disdainful." Heh. Depends mainly on what you expect-- I don't think it's fair to characterize Americans as insincere in their friendliness (although a lot of American wait staff really push the limit here). Another important point is that if someone thinks the French are rude to foreigners, they can be much more rude to each other. Like most Europeans, the French are much more status conscious than Americans-- if you are perceived as disrespectful by committing a social faux pas (for example, by forgetting to say 'Bonjour' to the staff on entering a shop), you will get the same in return.In addition, most wait staff in Europe don't work on tips-- they work for the manager, not for you, and most Europeans expect to have a much more leisurely meal than Americans.

Transportation: Population density is the key here-- Germany has about 80 million people, two-thirds of whom live in a 300 mile wide corridor stretching from Munich to Hamburg. Ditto for France if you take a 200 mile wide circumference around Paris. It's a lot easier (and makes sense) to have top-notch public transportation than to have that many people try to drive every day. It's also the case that European capitals are viewed as showcases for public spaces, so the state spends lavishly. You won't find transportation or public spaces like Paris in the poorer provincial cities off the tourist routes (like Verdun).

Working Hard: remember, those who work in private enterprise in France have to work very hard-- they're paying for the +50% of GDP consumed by those on the dole and the hordes of government employees who can retire at 55.

29 posted on 07/27/2014 12:45:45 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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With regard to why most cars in Europe are stick-shift, it’s simply the way it is. The most common thing I’ve heard as to why is better control in inclement weather conditions, particularly during the winter months.

Surprised to hear there’s an absence of Toyota and Honda autos; they’re quite common here in the Czech Republic, though not as common as the domestic automaker, Škoda. Ford is quite popular here too.


31 posted on 07/27/2014 12:46:33 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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I enjoyed your comments. And would be very interested in a future post about Muslems in France.


32 posted on 07/27/2014 12:47:17 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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My experience of France is from the late sixties. The people did smell then because no one wore deodorant, indoor plumbing was spotty, and women did not shave under their arms. I understand that all these conditions have improved.

Everyone in France smoked a lot. The favorite cigarette was the Gauloise. It stunk incredibly.

The food was wonderful; but then again, I was looking forward to French food and love omelettes, fruits and vegetables, especially potatoes, so I was not disappointed. Nor was I staying long-term; so I didn’t miss the Americanized ethnic foods (German saurkraut, Italian cuisine, etc) you described.

The people in the countryside were indeed warm, friendly and helpful, including when our car broke down. The people who worked in Paris were rude and snobbish, pretending not to understand my French (which was understood every other place in Europe, including outside of Paris) and generally behaving churlishly. One bakery woman would not even sell me a dozen croissants after I said it serveral different ways, lastly pointed to them and held fingers up, or even when I wrote it down. She laughed, shrugged and sneered the whole time. So I cussed her out in French, and judging by her red face and screams, she understood my French perfectly.


33 posted on 07/27/2014 12:47:35 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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I wonder what kind of vehicle they use for the sorts of things we would use a pickup truck for?

I’ve never been to France but I’ve been to Denmark, and I was very aware of how much slimmer the people were. Portions in restaurants were smaller than here and food was generally more expensive.


34 posted on 07/27/2014 12:48:36 PM PDT by Yardstick
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You are surprised to see European cars in Europe?

Ever hear of Volkswagen,Mercedes, Renault,Pegeuot,Citroen,Fiat,BMW, Audi, Skoda, or SEAT?

Probably the only American player on the continent is Ford, with a huge factory dedicated by Henry and Adolph in the 1930s.


35 posted on 07/27/2014 12:48:46 PM PDT by PAR35
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