Posted on 07/23/2014 3:54:37 PM PDT by Kartographer
What you have with you is what you gonna have for some time if you find yourself in urban survival scenario.
If you have stored food and water most probably you can count on that only for some time, before situation changes or you manage to find some more supplies.
There are ways to obtain resources at the beginning of SHTF in the chaos, but it is not like in the movies, and you can count on the fact that mostly you will be late for these events and more organized units such as local gangs control who gets what when looting. It is high risk, medium reward and most of us prepare to not have to risk anything in this chaos.
Some greedy prepper will still head out to get that bit of extra and if you know my story from my time in war, that we looted the alcohol factory was very helpful in the weeks and months after. But we were not prepared. Big difference.
Better organized groups will control looting so this is no real benefit for urban survival.
Count on the fact that being in a city when SHTF means too many folks and way too little resources, and when that happens you can expect bad things.
- See more at: http://shtfschool.com/basic-survival/rural-vs-urban-survival/#sthash.NmrAj3tl.dpuf
(Excerpt) Read more at shtfschool.com ...
Preppers’ PING!!
Yep, and a plan for area security with your neighbors. Lone wolves don't last long if they have to farm, forage, hunt, get water, and do security for themselves. There's this "sleep" thing. BTT
I hear people taste like pork. Just sayin’.
I thought you got all worked up about people looting. He looted an alcohol factory. What gives?
What about Suburban Survival?
Ask Selco how many people he killed during the slcohol-factory loot-fest. His link is there, and I’m sure he’ll give you an honest answer.
Kart is merely sharing info to those who asked for it. They are free to do with it as they will.
Did you join the ping list for information, or just to be another dickhead?
Selco is right. If you cannot get out of the urban area and get to a rural retreat you will be in a world of hurt.
I feel very happy to be rural. I have cattle, goats and chickens, I can grow a garden. If we have electricity we can grow crops.
There’s some rich guy that just moved here and he’s some kind of solar expert and he wants my son to do a little farming for him. We’re going to have him put all the domestic wells on solar for us.
Right.... If the smell doesn’t kill you first, the aftertaste might....
No fuel, traffic stuffed, roadblocks, roads spiked, empty rural second homes looted and burned long before anyone could reach ‘em. That would truly be an ugly environment.
Why do you think they call it LONG PIG?
If your going to throw out insults at least be clever with them. I was just looking for consistency LadyBuck.
True Selco admits and talks about stealing from a nearby bombed out distillery. Just as true I have no use for those who take advantage of a situation and loot/steal for personal gain, greed and or just because they can.
Since Selco’s ‘crime’ was committed while trapped in a city under siege with artillery and mortars dropping shells right and left, while gangs raped, pillaged and killed at will and snipers filled the streets with dead men, women and children, I refuse to pass judgment as I have know idea what I would do or what I would be willing to do to keep my family alive within such a small section of Hell brought to earth. As Shakespeare said: A man with wife and child has given hostages to fate and I pray that I am never tested. That said I will not throw the first stone.
But I will say this I understand better a thief who’s motive is profit or great need more than one who as the Bible says:
“They sharpen their tongues like swords and aim cruel words like deadly arrows.” Psalms 64:3
or those:
“With perverted heart devises evil, continually sowing discord” Proverbs 6:14
For their acts of strife and discord profit them not and brings them no peace, but only stokes the fire of hate they have for those who have in truth done them no harm. Their need for vengeance and retribution is such that their words no mater how hateful can not sated their anger, but only causes it to grow and grow to a point where in the end it becomes so intense it burns them up. Such people I do not understand nor do I wish to, as the hate they carry is too ugly for for a man to contemplate.
...for 1 corned beef can you could have woman for couple of hours(sounds bad, but it was reality)...rifle ammo and of course food, we fight like animals for that...It is not important witch side had right in that war...there were normal people like you and me, fathers, granddads, decent folks, who robed and killed, there was not too much good and bad guys, most of us was gray, ready for everything...that was not Cristian vs Muslim war, it was civil war, with lot of switching between sides...i am not going into religious stories,...i am not belong to any dogma, Muslim or Christian...i am not here to discuss...religion or anything similar...my wife is different ethnicity, and she is also a Catholic, i am not, and to answer you : no i am not going to shoot her...
I don't see Kart justifying it.
All he's doing is posting the threads in which Selco admits to what he did. He's not accountable for Selco's actions from years ago.
Man-powered Weapons and Ammunition: A review
July 24, 2014 | Author B.B. Pelletier+ | 18 Comments »
by Tom Gaylord, a.k.a. B.B. Pelletier
book cover
This is the softcover version of the book.
This report covers:
• When is 12 foot-pounds more than 12 foot-pounds?
• How long is long enough?
• Ka-boom!
• Hodges catapult gun
• Why do airguns lose so much power?
• What kind of power can I expect?
This is a brief book review of The Practical Guide to Man-powered Weapons and Ammunition by Richard Middleton, copyright ©2005, published by Skyhorse Publishing, New York. Dennis Quackenbush sent this book to me just because he thought I needed to read it. Well, I’ve read it and now I’m recommending it to all of you.
The subtitle is Experiments with Catapults, Musketballs, Stonebows, Blowpipes, Big Airguns, and Bullet Bows. That should give you an idea of what’s included. Mr. Middleton explains dozens of different experiments in which he advances his understanding of pneumatic and spring-operated projectile launchers. He calls them weapons, as is the custom in the UK and also Australia, where he’s from. Here in the U.S., we define weapons as things meant to injure or kill; and, while most of what is in his book will do exactly that, our American culture sets the word weapon apart as a term charged with emotion. Most of us don’t consider airguns to be weapons.
That aside, this is one of the most interesting nonfiction books I’ve read in years, and it may be the very best one on the subject of pneumatic guns. The author addresses several scientific subjects without referring to formulas and equations, and the way he backs into each new subject makes you think he is a normal guy — just like the rest of us. But it’s obvious that he’s spent a lot of time and devoted much thought to making these complex subjects seem simple.
When is 12 foot-pounds more than 12 foot-pounds?
I don’t know about you, but I rarely read an introduction to anything. But in this book, I found the first profound concept on page viii — you know, one of those odd-numbered pages you flip past when turning to the real book? The author tells us he is puzzled by something he’s seen. He has a ballistic pendulum hanging from the ceiling of his garage. The bob weighs 12 lbs. When he shoots the bob with a .22-caliber airgun pellet going 620 f.p.s., it swings one-half inch from the impact. When he shoots it with a .451-caliber lead ball launched from a slingshot at 196 f.p.s., the bob swings an inch and a half — three times as far! The interesting thing is that both projectiles develop an identical 12 foot-pounds! Does that make you stop and think?
How long is long enough?
This topic comes up all the time. We “know” that a longer barrel allows an airgun projectile to go faster when fired from a pneumatic gun, but where does it end? How long is long enough? I see endless discussions on this blog between two or more readers wondering what the optimum barrel length might be for a certain airgun, yet nobody seems to know how to figure it out. Well, Mr. Middleton knows, and he conducted several experiments to demonstrate it to the reader.
Ka-boom!
We recently introduced the Air Burst MegaBoom Supersonic Target System here at Pyramyd Air and several of you were enchanted by it. Mr. Middleton made one a decade ago and describes how it worked. He took his experiments to places the MegaBoom folks don’t want you going, and he tells you what happened. You really should read this.
Hodges catapult gun
You veteran readers may remember that I reported on the Hodges catapult gun a couple years ago. This book not only talks about Hodges guns, it gives ballistics for several of them and tells you what to expect if the ammo is changed. This is stuff you cannot find anywhere.
Why do airguns lose so much power?
Our blog readers ask these intriguing questions all the time, and this book has the answers. Why does the mainspring in a breakbarrel rifle that’s rated at 150 lbs. of energy only put 21 foot-pounds out the muzzle? What happens between the spring and pellet that wastes most of that energy? And why is a .22-caliber gun always more powerful than the same gun in .177? This book explores these themes and explains them through the results of several experiments.
What kind of power can I expect?
“If my rifle develops 20 foot-pounds in a .22, what sort of power can I expect from the same gun in a .177?” I get that question a lot. This book answers it and tells you how to figure it out for yourself.
I could go on, but I’m going to stop here. I see questions every day about airgun fundamentals from many blog readers. Here’s a book that answers a lot of them and suggests how you might answer others on your own. The writing is easy to follow and almost conversational — like this blog!
I have an extensive library about the shooting sports and those books have helped me write this daily blog for you. Questions we ask today were also asked 150 years ago and have often been answered more than once by some very creative people. You can now add Richard Middleton to that list.
Pyramyd Air doesn’t sell this book, but you can certainly find it on Amazon. It’s not expensive, but it’s worth many times the $12 price. If you really want to know more about airguns, this is a place to start looking and learning.
Now if we could just get back to theorizing about which big box store a pepper and his group would want to take over and defend, all would be right in the world. I’m still thinking Fleet Farm.
The Balkanization of American is fairly much complete, just one side finds itself short of warriors and so will do what has been done for thousands of years import them with promises of spoils and riches.
In fact the fragmentation and division of American is so complete you would have to be blind not to see it is here on the pages of FR.
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