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The Reality of Survival: “Forget Good Guys and Bad Guys… The Prepared Guys Win”
SHTF Plan ^ | 7/21/14 | Selco

Posted on 07/21/2014 4:07:11 PM PDT by Kartographer

TV news and internet are covered with headlines like “shocking, captured Iraqis beheaded” or “they are killing everyone on their way” and “prisoners executed” and similar.

And folks who watch and comment on the news and videos who still live in a “normal” world without this kind of crazyiness going on, are shocked of course.

First comments are that those people and groups who are doing that are animals and they need to be “bombed to stone age”, or “they are not deserving better anyway” and then goes “they are all same there, let them kill each other” and similar.

While I would definitely like to see that fanatics getting “eradicated” there, there are more things that should be considered.

Most of the folks are not going to watch video of that violence, because it is too much for them (like this video that “promotes” ISIS), they will change channel, or simply open the page with news from the “celebrity world.”

People do not want to watch or think about bad things, people want to forget that, and yes, at the end there comes again that famous “it cannot happen to us” idea.

Do you really think that when (not if) SHTF events would be much different in your part of the world? Do you think that when collapse happens, you and people around you in your town will be somehow able to organize food distribution, security and safety for residents, and all those criminals and sick bastards will somehow disappear, and there is going to be new better society? Are you under the influence of movies and you think that good guys win almost always and that there is justice and sense in everything?

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To: Farmer Dean

Yes we will be hunting. Lots of woods around where we will be. Low population and millions of deer. We are planning on the whole family at our retreat. Two people will be hard pressed to defend a property if the wrong people come along.


21 posted on 07/21/2014 7:30:48 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kartographer
ya. thanks, i guess.

he screamed so long. i wanted him to stop. and then he did.

now you know.

stop military suicide and ptsd.

patriotoutreach.org

22 posted on 07/21/2014 9:56:49 PM PDT by conservativeimage (I Won't Go Underground http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wema3CNqzvg)
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To: conservativeimage.com

No one said it would be pretty.


23 posted on 07/21/2014 10:11:34 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Lurker

Robert Heinlein pointed out, way back in the 50’s (some of the best essays on survival ever written) that NO “civilization” is more than two missed meals away from chaos.


24 posted on 07/22/2014 6:52:48 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Kartographer

Texas will immediately secede and both the National Guard and Reserves will man the border. You will have to prove Texas citizenship and ability to make a living before crossing the border.


25 posted on 07/22/2014 8:54:23 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: conservativeimage.com
"Societal collapse changes preconceptions of right and wrong if you want to stay alive right?"

Most people who publicly discuss suburban prepping/survivalism haven't been realistically acquainted with poor people living in very backwards conditions (visits from tourist corrals with fancy accomodations don't count). Poverty doesn't make morality go away. Only criminal minds continue to resort to immorality, when their environment gets rough (e.g., transition from office "politics" to retarded armed robbery attempts).

"Has Selco talked about the worst thing he had to do in survival?"

Here are some excerpts with quotes from him in another article.

A Survival Q & A: Living Through SHTF In The Middle Of A War Zone
SHTF Plan ^ | 10-25-2011 | Chris Kitze

I was lucky, my family was big in that time (15 members in one big house, 5-6 pistols, 3 Kalashnikov s)...for 1 corned beef can you could have woman for couple of hours(sounds bad, but it was reality)...candles, lighters,antibiotics,fuel,batteries, rifle ammo and of course food, we fight like animals for that...It is not important witch side had right in that war...there were normal people like you and me, fathers, granddads, decent folks, who robed and killed, there was not too much good and bad guys, most of us was gray, ready for everything...one more example, i am a registered nurse...that was not Cristian vs Muslim war, it was civil war, with lot of switching between sides...i am not going into religious stories,...i am not belong to any dogma, Muslim or Christian...be sure, you are going to do some bad things to save your kid...I am nurse, also i am paramedic...In case of weapon keep it simple, i mean now i always carry Glock 45 with me, because i like that gun, but it is not usual gun and usual caliber here, so i also have two 7,62 mm TT russian pistols hidden...you need to be prepared to do some ugly things...I don’t anymore believe government and authority, not at all...i am not here to discuss...religion or anything similar...i have lot of alcohol stacked now...i did not notice a lot pets in that time, did somebody ate it? I don t know, probably...my wife is different ethnicity, and she is also a Catholic, i am not, and to answer you : no i am not going to shoot her...Hm, i had a lot of alcohol as i mentioned before, i traded almost everything without any problem, let me say it like this: consumption of alcohol was probably 10 times more than in normal time...When your friend must choose between his child s death and your death quess who is going to choose...If i can give some advice: first to prep is a weapon and ammo...in the first period weak people vanished, other fight...Get in your prepper storage some reanimation kit (simple one)...people need alcohohol more in desperte times then usual, so it is kind of gambling i guess...Thing is i had all that alcohol for free...



26 posted on 07/22/2014 3:08:11 PM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --"Deacon," "Waterworld")
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To: conservativeimage.com
Very related to the topic.

Soldier: Terrorists Charged with Babies in Hand
Arutz Sheva ^ | 22/7/14 | Shimon Cohen, Maayana Miskin
"One parent reported that terrorists had run at IDF soldiers with a gun in one hand and a baby in the other, apparently in hopes that the soldiers would see the child and hold their fire."

That's the kind of behavior that many people from some cultures would agree with to this day. Generally, people from early American culture would not agree with such behavior in the roughest of circumstances. A few people in America today would (mostly descendants of more recent arrivals from very foreign cultures).


27 posted on 07/22/2014 5:15:22 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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