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Interesting.
1 posted on 07/03/2014 10:54:38 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

Oh yeah - Jefferson wanted to put the emphasis on a strong government. Sure.


2 posted on 07/03/2014 10:57:48 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Kartographer

No. The problem is Yahoo, not Jefferson. Arrogant bastards.


4 posted on 07/03/2014 11:07:38 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Kartographer

The Doctrine of Negative Rights is described in the passage referencing government, so it doesn’t matter whether it was a period or not. The American government derives it’s powers from the People, and not the other way around.

End of subject.


6 posted on 07/03/2014 11:36:54 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Kartographer

How about just moving on to the part about abolishing the government?


7 posted on 07/03/2014 11:49:02 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE! --- ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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Does it matter?

with a period
Journals of the Continental Congress, Volume 5
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=lljc&fileName=005/lljc005.db&recNum=94

with semicolon
Thomas Jefferson to Richard Henry Lee, July 8, 1776, with Declaration of Independence
http://memory.loc.gov/master/mss/mtj/mtj1/001/0500/0564.jpg

with period
Thomas Jefferson, et al, July 4, 1776, Copy of Declaration of Independence
http://memory.loc.gov/master/mss/mtj/mtj1/001/0500/0556.jpg

with long and short dash
Continental Congress, July 4, 1776, Printed Declaration of Independence, George Washington Papers
http://memory.loc.gov/mss/mgw/mgw4/037/0000/0020.jpg


9 posted on 07/04/2014 12:34:19 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Kartographer

it is interesting. in context and the federalist papers, there is no doubt what was meant.

jeeze, the just got rid of a king...now the argument is they wanted a govt and pres who could become king...er not if you read anything about the signers.

for a bunch of powdered wigged slave owners, they sure seemed to know a lot about people and not an ipad among them. this comment says it all...when the people can vote themselves money...that is the end of the republic. if you want to know whats wrong with the world, anything from franklin, jefferson or washington will explain it.

for fracks sake, im irish and i know this...what the hell is going on over there in the US!!!

happy 4th of july people...


11 posted on 07/04/2014 2:25:50 AM PDT by Irishguy
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Except for the obvious and very visible period in the document ant the initial capital “T” in the word “That” which follows as the first word in a next sentence. In any event, hierarchy is established by word order. The individual rights are listed first.

This is a grasping, conniving and clearly desperate effort of an effete statist.


13 posted on 07/04/2014 3:26:23 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Kartographer

Deconstructionism. For those times when just lying to yourself is no longer cutting it.


14 posted on 07/04/2014 3:41:11 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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Idiotic.

All this focus on a period—one that clearly doesn’t belong there—is a distraction from the fact that the list of “self-evident truths” does not end with “happiness.” The self-evident truths include the necessity of the consent of the governed for a government to govern justly—and the natural right of revolution. Hardly the STATIST passage these morons want to make it.


16 posted on 07/04/2014 4:20:03 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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I think Jefferson’s other writings at the time also speak volumes on how we all were brought up knowing that GOVT is not the answer to all Citizens freedoms, but a deterrence.

This professor is discounting everything Jefferson and the other Founding Fathers have written.

One could argue that a mere ink dot that slipped from the quill could have been an error and should be disregarded...this debate over the GOVT needs to control the CITIZEN is BS - we all know it - we all know why the Revolutionary War was conducted - to defeat a tyrant - then same type that is presently occupying the WH!


17 posted on 07/04/2014 4:20:47 AM PDT by BCW (Amazon Books: "Babylon's Covert War" - the Iraq conflict explained in detail - by JH White)
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The ignorant not only wouldn’t understand it, they wouldn’t be able to read it...it’s in cursive.


18 posted on 07/04/2014 4:41:36 AM PDT by RetSignman
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To: Kartographer
Have We Been Reading the Declaration of Independence All Wrong?

We have not been reading it wrong; we have understood it wrong.

British subjects wrote the Declaration of Independence to notify King George why they were resisting. This obligation resulted in the most perfect document ever created by man. It is as applicable today as it was then.

The link between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution created an unbreakable bond.

The Declaration of Independence declared that the reason for a free people to institute a government is to protect their rights. Free people do not need to institute s government to grant rights.

Many Americans were educated to believe that the founders ratified America’s Constitution to establish a government empowered to take care of them. Reading the Constitution would help correct this highly flawed position.

19 posted on 07/04/2014 7:18:06 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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