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This time and every other time we fight with Obama is personal. He has never even reached across the isle in compromise.
1 posted on 06/29/2014 8:45:53 PM PDT by Citizen Zed
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The only place Obama reaches is into his Alinsky approved pockets for his copy of Das Kapital and some blow.


2 posted on 06/29/2014 8:49:02 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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“Argue that a woman should be able to decide the type of contraception she uses, not her boss.”

She can use whatever the hell she wants, she can pay for it too.


3 posted on 06/29/2014 8:58:15 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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The Obama administration and supporters of the health care law. Argue that a woman should be able to decide the type of contraception she uses, not her boss.

Oh, in that case I'm with The Won. I didn't realize Hobby Lobby was trying to prevent their employees from using legal forms of murder. Here I thought they were just declining from paying for it.

4 posted on 06/29/2014 9:07:18 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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"We believe that Americans don't lose their religious freedom when they open a family business," said Barbara Green, who owns Hobby Lobby.

It's not the fact of the business, it's the fact of the incorporation.

It may well be a necessity in today's business environment, but the fact of the matter is that incorporation crates a fake person - a legal entity - that takes the blame for those who actually violate the law inside of it.

We all know how you can't sue someone in a corporation, but have to sue the corporation instead of the person, unless you can show they acted outside of their jobs.

Well, the way that works under the law is that the government creates that corporate person - so the government is seen as the corporations' creator - it's GOD.

And so, the government owns it. That's why it has to pay fees and taxes for its existence, and cannot exist without paying those fees and taxes.

It doesn't matter whether it is a one-person corporation or General Motors. Or whether is is a partnership, an LLC, an S-corp. What matters is the indemnification enabled by the legal entity.

In other words, IT'S NOT HUMAN, and so IT GETS NO HUMAN RIGHTS.

Including the 1A right to freedom of religion.

All it gets is privileges, and those privileges are granted by the government, for the purposes of the government.

SO: no mater what SCOTUS rules on this, understand that they are NOT ruling on the Hobby Lobby famly members human rights to First Amendment religious freedom.

What they are ruling on is IF IT BENEFITS THE GOVERNMENT to extend 1A PRIVILEGES to corporations concerning the specific religious issues cited by the Hobby Lobby corporation.

I am not saying you should like the situation - just understand that that is what it IS. Because in fact, NO ruling will be made on the 1st Amendment right to religious freedom, because HUMAN rights are not before the Court.

5 posted on 06/29/2014 9:19:45 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Personal or not, SCOTUS must rule against Hobby Lobby in order to keep their “obamacare” ruling(s) consistent.

I hope I'm wrong, but the feds cannot and will not back down now, IMO.

10 posted on 06/29/2014 9:53:53 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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Brace yourselves for disappointment.


14 posted on 06/29/2014 11:18:59 PM PDT by DesScorp
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The pill is 100% effective. The woman just has to hold it between her knees.


17 posted on 06/30/2014 1:20:54 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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