[Talisker]

"We believe that Americans don't lose their religious freedom when they open a family business," said Barbara Green, who owns Hobby Lobby.

It's not the fact of the business, it's the fact of the incorporation.

It may well be a necessity in today's business environment, but the fact of the matter is that incorporation crates a fake person - a legal entity - that takes the blame for those who actually violate the law inside of it.

We all know how you can't sue someone in a corporation, but have to sue the corporation instead of the person, unless you can show they acted outside of their jobs.

Well, the way that works under the law is that the government creates that corporate person - so the government is seen as the corporations' creator - it's GOD.

And so, the government owns it. That's why it has to pay fees and taxes for its existence, and cannot exist without paying those fees and taxes.

It doesn't matter whether it is a one-person corporation or General Motors. Or whether is is a partnership, an LLC, an S-corp. What matters is the indemnification enabled by the legal entity.

In other words, IT'S NOT HUMAN, and so IT GETS NO HUMAN RIGHTS.

Including the 1A right to freedom of religion.

All it gets is privileges, and those privileges are granted by the government, for the purposes of the government.

SO: no mater what SCOTUS rules on this, understand that they are NOT ruling on the Hobby Lobby famly members human rights to First Amendment religious freedom.

What they are ruling on is IF IT BENEFITS THE GOVERNMENT to extend 1A PRIVILEGES to corporations concerning the specific religious issues cited by the Hobby Lobby corporation.

I am not saying you should like the situation - just understand that that is what it IS. Because in fact, NO ruling will be made on the 1st Amendment right to religious freedom, because HUMAN rights are not before the Court.

[INVAR]

So when exactly did it become “law” that when you ‘incorporate’ your business to protect your personal assets from lawsuit, you surrender your private property rights?

Because this is what is at issue here. Whether your private property and your inalienable rights to do with your property as you desire can be violated by the whims of government.

[Citizen Zed]

There are plenty of businesses (incorporated or not) that mention God in their mission statements. I wonder when Obama will put a stop to that?

Here's one I just found (see the last bullet)

On the back of every MOREY business card is a bold mission statement:

TO SERVE our customers by striving to provide unsurpassed value.

TO SERVE the MOREY workforce by providing secure jobs in a healthy and positive atmosphere, opportunities for growth and recognition as part of a team that provides excellent products and services.

TO SERVE MOREY by providing for our future prosperity through leadership for constant improvements.

TO SERVE our suppliers through partnerships based upon trust, fairness, loyalty and value.

TO SERVE God by living honestly, with integrity and loyalty in all of our business and personal relationships.