Posted on 06/17/2014 12:50:47 PM PDT by Mozilla
Shock: Fmr. Breitbart Journo Did Extensive DNA Research; Will Destroy Obama’s Legacy!?
@CrushTheCFR @jkryn @HGTomato When I have something to announce, I'll announce it but I'm not going to be dragged into something by Orly.
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) May 21, 2014
@ChuckCJohnson @Birther_Watch @CrushTheCFR @jkryn @HGTomato The best remedy for Obots; Ignore them...
— Birther Report (@BirtherReport) May 21, 2014
@BirtherReport when I have something to announce I will announce it. Until then I ask everyone leave me alone to finish my work.
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) May 21, 2014
What country do you live in, btw? (If you don’t mind my asking.) It’s been brought to my attention that you don’t use the American spelling of ‘neighbor’. Are you & your ‘freeper neighbour’ British?
The New York Times never ‘found’ this stuff... they’re sooooo lame.
Nah, I have no interest in that. I prefer debating real issues not wallowing in the mud of ad hominem attacks worthy of middle school kids. But you enjoy yourself.
Gilbert’s video is a mockumentary. FMD was not the father, Stanley Ann Dunham was not the mother, and SAD and the “exotic” model are two different people. That was dissected and made clear on several threads. The exotic model was photographed in magazines that were published as early as 1958 when SAD was a young teenager in high school.
Gilbert’s motives for making the mockumentary are...unclear.
You started this discussion. A claim was made that I hadn’t heard before, so I asked for a link. The link clearly doesn’t exist so you attack the questioner. Fair enough. I get it now - make unsubstatiated claims then get annoyed. Very little point in continuing unless you can provide that link.
Thanks for that link, a useful timeline - but again I don’t see anything in it to substantiate the claim that Obama himself persistently claimed that his father lived with him for the first two years. Tbh I don’t much care either - I simply hadn’t seen the claim and was interested. Seems it is misinformation - I assumed you would appreciate knowing that.I’m not sure there is anyone alive that knows the full details, and I’m not sure why Obama should be expected to either, since he was a baby.
Interesting. If Frank Marshall Davis is Zero's biological father, that would make him a natural born citizen per the Constitutional requirement, no matter where he was born.
We get one of these crying wolf posts about every few months; gets some hopes up, gets about 199 posts and then never to be heard from again. What makes this one different? What would make me believe somehow this “book” will get noticed, featured, the author interviewed by some group other than NewsMax, CNS News, or...???
Considering that black robes conspired with Obama to reveal all his enemies had hidden by court order because the public deserves to know, thereby guaranteeing Obama a victory, it is quite ironic that no black robe will help the people know today.
“You started this discussion.”
Indeed I did. Someone needed to. You acted with classless gaucherie on the Fuddy thread. Past time someone called you on it.
“A claim was made that I hadn’t heard before, so I asked for a link.”
Which I promptly provided.
“The link clearly doesn’t exist”
This is a lie, an outright lie.
“so you attack the questioner.”
I did not. Post my so-called ‘attack’, please. I can’t even discuss it, unless & until I find out what you are ***alleging*** is an ‘attack’.
“Fair enough.”
If I did what you claim, it wouldn’t be fair. But I didn’t.
“I get it now - make unsubstatiated claims then get annoyed.”
Try to stick with the facts. I neither made unsubstantiated claims nor did I get annoyed. Misrepresentation will get you nowhere.
“Very little point in continuing unless you can provide that link.”
The link was provided. You made idiotic claims about what Obama said—i.e.: you wholly misrepresented his quote, & then made even stupider comments in a misguided effort to ‘explain’ the quote—& I corrected you. I see that you are avoiding the specifics of what I said like the plague. Can’t blame you there. You can’t argue with my comments. Therefore all you can do is ignore or misrepresent them. Shame on you.
Now try to read this reiteration of my comments with more insight than you demonstrated the first time. For you to misconstrue what I said once was bad enough; to do it a second time would be inexcusable.
Here is what Obama said:
“My father left my family when I was 2 years old”
He did NOT say, as you misconstrued, that his father left ‘the country’ when Obama was 2. He could have said that, but he didn’t.
He did NOT, as you claimed, say his father left the family when Obama ‘was tiny’. He could have said that, but he didn’t.
He said his father left the family when Obama was two yrs old.
Now it is simply a fact that you can’t leave something if you weren’t there. If I say, ‘He left the party after two hrs,’ the statement ONLY makes sense if he was there for two hrs. If he was only there for ten minutes, the statement is false. If he wasn’t there at all, the statement is false. The statement is only true if he was at the party for two hrs & then left.
Obama couldn’t have left the family when Obama was two if he’d already left it a long time before. [Btw, there is no evidence—zero—that Obama Sr was EVER part of that family. Not one shred of evidence. Not even Obama’s most liberal & friendly biographers can find any. Stanley Ann & O Sr. never shared living quarters. That is why the newspaper birth announcements list her parents address: a place O Sr never lived. Because Stanley Ann & O Sr never shared living quarters at all.] The only way that statement is coherent & true is if Obama Sr had been with the family for two yrs & then left. That is the ONLY way.
This is basic English. I shouldn’t have to explain it to you. You should, if you are an adult, or even a reasonably intelligent child, be able to comprehend a simple sentence. Nor should you feel the need to twist & warp it out of all recognition. You should be able to take Obama’s words at face value. So let’s see if you can/will. I think you can if you try. Even most Obots do. They admit, iow, that Obama claims his mother & father lived together for two years. They admit that claim is false. You’re the first one I’ve ever met who can’t even comprehend the claim itself. Let’s see if you can’t do better. Here’s hoping.
I’ve seen nothing yet that backs up your claim in post 93 that Obama HIMSELF has “steadfastly claimed” his parents lived together for two years. YOu asked me about it and my reply was truthful. Your link was hearsay in a birther article, with no link to the source. I politely asked for a link to Obama making the claim himself, and have received nothing but abuse. A revealing tactic. Saying your father left after two years is totally ambiguous and doesn’t rise to the level of “steadfastly claimed” in any sane world. I see no point in playing your games unless you either provide the link or retract the claim. To do neither is embarrassing for you.
Well if you were just a shade better at communicating you’d have had this link yesterday. Cashill’s article includes the exact quote, and he is a stellar researcher & a man of integrity. How was I to know you were calling him a liar?
At the 7.15 mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhyu6070ZPI
Nice try. Obama saying his father left the family when he was two (as we all know he did, to return to Kenya) is not the same as Obama claiming, steadfastly no less, that his father lived with him and his mother for those two years, as you claimed in post 93. What happened in those intervening two years nobody living knows - they could have been together but living apart while Obama snr was at Harvard, or separated - who knows or cares.
So you are saying O Sr. left a family he hadn’t been with? How could he manage that? You can’t leave something you aren’t a part of. Surely I don’t have to explain these basics over & over & over...do I?
Another thing. As I mentioned, there is no evidence that Stanley Ann & Obama Sr EVER lived together. Not even for five minutes. Obama Jr lives in a dream world. He tells lies & ends up believing them. That is the point. You are trying to justify the words of a pathological liar. In fact, you should be questioning every word this man speaks. If he claims to be born in HI, that is your first clue he probably wasn’t.
Let me put this in broader context. At this stage, most people have caught onto Obama’s propensity to lie. He scores very low in poll questions about honesty & integrity. Yet for some reason you have set yourself the task of justifying one of Obama’s oft repeated whoppers. Why? Why not just admit that Obama lies. It’s not only easier; it’s the truth.
You show a lack of imagination that belies your screen name. I separated with (and eventually divorced) my son's mother and we both moved to new houses, but I continued to live in the same town and had regular contact with my son. He would not have said that I "left the family." But if I moved thousands of miles away and ceased to have contact except for phone calls and letters--and we don't know if Obama Sr. kept up contact even that much--then my son might say I left the family. You don't have to live together to be part of the family, in a child's mind.
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