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13 planes vanish from radars over Europe
Telegraph ^ | June 13, 2014 | Matthew Day

Posted on 06/14/2014 8:34:44 PM PDT by wtd

13 planes vanish from radars over Europe As many as 13 planes flying over Europe vanish from radar screens in an "unprecedented" series of blackouts that lasted 25 minutes with claims air traffic control could have been hacked

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aviation; disappear; missing; planes; radar
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To: Paisan

There was supposed to be extraordinary solar flare activity this weekend. I’d guess that might be more likely. Now, the Malaysian airliner is another matter. I tend toward the theory that the plane was taken somewhere to be used later.


21 posted on 06/14/2014 9:17:55 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Texas Songwriter

22 posted on 06/14/2014 9:20:49 PM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: RJS1950

Solar flare interference has been noticeable for the last few days. I believe Friday should have been the last of this batch.

http://spaceweather.com


23 posted on 06/14/2014 9:23:30 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: dfwgator

LOL! That was a good one!


24 posted on 06/14/2014 9:39:04 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: wtd
How to deal with hackers:

I think this would effectively cut down on their activities.

25 posted on 06/14/2014 9:44:59 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: Paisan

Possible.


26 posted on 06/14/2014 10:12:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Viennacon

No need to crash it just fly over and the will surrender.
De la masse


27 posted on 06/14/2014 10:45:04 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: wtd

two events, one plan


28 posted on 06/14/2014 10:53:34 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: RJS1950

In the early 70s I was in AF comms and worked extensively with HF, VHF, UHF and EHF communications and radar equipment.

In that time, we experienced a SID (sudden ionospheric disturbance) that knocked out about all of our comms. It (ionospheric disturbance) cause by solar sunspot/flare activity where large volumes of the earth’s ionosphere is ionized by the radiation. It effectively is a big sponge for long haul communications, especially those that depended on the normal environment of the ionosphere to work properly. That mean that the lower frequencies were affected first and longest.

For a direct line of sight radar system, and at frequencies above L or S band, I’d say maybe some attenuation, but not complete loss. For higher band radars, C and X band, likely a much less effect.

My big question is what was lost? The actual skin returns, or did the transponder system go out?


29 posted on 06/15/2014 4:23:22 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

I think the solar activity interrupted the skin returns in where the flare effect were higher.

I spent my AF career in strat nuke ops where satcom, HF and UHF were critical. We were always alerted to the possibilities of outages from flares. Solar activity has caused localized outages in the past and this was pretty localized. Now, if it happens again in the absence of any other factors then it would be something to worry about.


30 posted on 06/15/2014 8:35:48 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: AlexW

Common sense is not paranoia.


31 posted on 06/15/2014 7:42:02 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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