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After almost 40 years the Air Force fighter jocks finally got their wish and killed the A-10. The plane has been the unwanted duckling from day 1. Billions of dollars to take care of illegals flooding the border not one cent for the most effective ground support plane in the world. They might of come in handy to attack the ISIS.
1 posted on 06/13/2014 11:08:18 AM PDT by C19fan
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February 25 · Edited TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now) - Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel announced today that he is recommending the elimination of the A-10, the mainstay aircraft at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, as part of a proposed military budget. The Air Force has said it would save $3.5 billion over five years by cutting the entire fleet of 343 A-10s.

2 posted on 06/13/2014 11:12:03 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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Too bad the grunts don’t get a say in the matter.


3 posted on 06/13/2014 11:12:33 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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Don’t worry. Those funds are needed to bus in diseased, third world parasites and charge their welfare/benefits cards, phones, and vehicles. /sarc


4 posted on 06/13/2014 11:12:39 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!! (Keeper of the Sick Individuals pinglist))
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We'll just keep using B-1s for the CAS mission, with a much larger CEP hence greater possibility of friendly casualties...

Disgraceful - but predictable.

5 posted on 06/13/2014 11:13:30 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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How ironic that in Iraq they could be a game changer right now.


6 posted on 06/13/2014 11:13:37 AM PDT by McGruff (I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it.)
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It’s the tanker and grunt’s best friend. The Air Force has always hated it.


8 posted on 06/13/2014 11:22:16 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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Hopefully saner heads will prevail and funding will be restored in the final budget. But if they really want to piss the AF off, transfer all of the A-10s to the Army.


10 posted on 06/13/2014 11:23:43 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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Active Duty A-10 ping.


12 posted on 06/13/2014 11:25:16 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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In terms of effective pinpoint delivery of firepower and support of troops on the ground, the A 10 will never have an equal.

I will never understand why the Air Force has hated it so.


19 posted on 06/13/2014 11:44:40 AM PDT by lurk
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Obumblingidiot will waste no time sending these vital aircraft to the grinder. In a year, there won’t even be one in a museum.


21 posted on 06/13/2014 11:48:35 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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The real secret to the A-10 is its engine. If a friendly country could get high quality engines, it could produce a whole bunch of A-10s for profitable sale, based on its reputation.

While they always tout its advanced electronics, the truth of the matter is that it is designed for a slug-fest, where high tech is sort of incidental. Most systems in the aircraft are redundant, which explains how they could have damage like none other and still return home. Even their pilots are sitting in a “titanium bathtub”, to protect them.

The reason for this is because much of the design inspiration came via the astounding Nazi pilot Hans-Ulrich Rudel, who wrote a book called Stuka Pilot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Ulrich_Rudel

Rudel flew 3,530 combat missions claiming a total of 2,000 targets destroyed; including 800 vehicles, 519 tanks, 150 artillery pieces, 70 landing craft, nine aircraft, four armored trains, several bridges, a destroyer, two cruisers, and the Soviet battleship Marat.

He knew what he was doing. His wish list was incorporated into the A-10, and then some. And then the aircraft was built around the 30 mm GAU-8/A Avenger Gatling-type cannon, a very formidable weapon.

Yet, all told, if they could just get good engines, many countries could produce the A-10, and they could make a ton of money exporting them for sale.


25 posted on 06/13/2014 11:51:19 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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Replacements for the A-10 are smaller and more efficient smart weapons across all platforms and the F-35, neither of which are in the inventory yet and show no signs of getting there in the known future.


27 posted on 06/13/2014 11:55:33 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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Well, can’t blame Obama...


28 posted on 06/13/2014 12:08:09 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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P-47, then A1-E, then A-10. There’s always been a need for a dedicated CAS/Ground Attack platform since the advent of airpower. Big mistake to take the A-10 out of the inventory, unless you are a defense contractor with a similar platform ready to be pitched to take its place- then, it’s a financial boom.


29 posted on 06/13/2014 12:08:20 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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I know that legend has it that the USAF never liked the A-10 and that fighter pilots hate it.

In my nearly 30 years of service, I never found that to be the case...at least from O-5 and below.

At UPT, half the class starts out wanting to fly A-10s.


31 posted on 06/13/2014 12:19:40 PM PDT by TankerKC (If Mitt Romney is elected, everyone in the US will die!)
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Well, we do have the B-1 fleet for the CAS mission. What’s a little collateral damage amongst friends? /MournfulSarc


32 posted on 06/13/2014 12:21:25 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi or Atty General Holder, who brought more guns to Mexico?)
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Perhaps they all will be sent to Air National Guard units?

However, The USAF has really despised this low, slow workhorse from its first days as not fitting in with the Mach 2.5 air superiority fighter Top Gun image. They couldn't wait to transfer it to Guard units!

It is incredibly good at what it does. It is primarily a daylight operator, though, and it is 40 years old with no assembly line, so maintenance becomes increasingly crucial. What it needs is a replacement that specializes in the same job of anti-armor and close support of ground forces. Perhaps just a re-design. This is one fabulous airplane

The idea of using the B1-B ... which is also an ancient design ... for close support is simply ludicrous. Think WWII. The Tank Busters were the Bristol Beaufort and the Typhoon, not the B-17 or B-24!

35 posted on 06/13/2014 12:42:02 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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I hate to see these aircraft go to the boneyard. They are simply one of the very best aircraft ever flown.


36 posted on 06/13/2014 12:51:44 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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They retire these planes at their own peril. As an AF veteran, I know that this is the LAST plane that the enemy wanted to see coming at them over the horizon.

Stupid

Stupid

Stupid

46 posted on 06/13/2014 3:25:57 PM PDT by ducttape45
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Billions to hook ever more citizens on welfare addiction but they kill the Warthog.
I thoroughly despise the government.
47 posted on 06/13/2014 3:28:05 PM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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