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Tonalist spoils California Chrome's bid for the Triple Crown
Yahoo ^ | 6-7-14 | Jay Hart

Posted on 06/07/2014 4:14:03 PM PDT by kingattax

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To: Vaquero

And if they do change the rules the Triple Crown becomes meaningless because they forced one to happen.


41 posted on 06/07/2014 4:38:45 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: DanielRedfoot

costas is a total waste of skin.

on another note, you probably saw the race. do you have any comment about the way Chrome’s jockey had him in perfect position on the inside and swung him off the rail completely to the outside ?

IMO that was a bad tactical mistake. Chrome looked real comfortable where he was and after the jockey moved him, he just wasn’t running the same he was up until then.

the horse just didn’t seem to like where he got moved to.


42 posted on 06/07/2014 4:38:58 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: kingattax
I don't know much about horse racing, but if they change the qualification rules for the Preakness and the Belmont it seems to me it would diminish the achievements of previous triple crown winners. This (rule changes) happens all the time in my sport (auto racing) and it makes it virtually impossible to compare drivers from different eras.

It's too bad CC's owner was so bitter. It's always better to be a gracious loser. He burned a lot of good will in a few seconds.

43 posted on 06/07/2014 4:39:20 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Can Juan Williams possibly be that stupid?)
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To: clintonh8r

that was unfortunate and he will probably regret it after things calm down.


44 posted on 06/07/2014 4:40:46 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: nickcarraway
It’s a lot tougher coming off that a few weeks ago.

Exactly. That is why it is so hard to win the TC. You have fresh horses in a longer race.

But that is why a triple is so special. If it was easy anyone could do it.

45 posted on 06/07/2014 4:43:09 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Yossarian

Secretariats top rival was Sham...who ran all 3 races,,,Seattle Slews top rival was Sanhedrin...who ran all 3 races...and Alydar ran all 3 races against Affirmed...so, who knows.


46 posted on 06/07/2014 4:44:19 PM PDT by basalt
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To: basalt

There wouldn’t have been a fresh horse that would have defeated those three TC winners.


47 posted on 06/07/2014 4:45:27 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Vaquero
I agree with the owner.

Could you imagine the crying if an NFL team allowed to sit out the playoffs was suddenly allowed to contend for the Super Bowl?

In the past most horses raced all 3 races. You didn't see spoilers coming in. Look at the Affirmed/Alydar duel. Those two battled all 3 races and the best horse won. This thing with sitting out races and spoiling the triple started sometime in the 80s. I can't remember the name of the horse, but I remember a Derby winner who was paid over a million dollars by an Arab sheikh to skip the Preakness. That was when it started.

Horseracing has been losing popularity for years and this is one of the reasons.

48 posted on 06/07/2014 4:49:02 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: ponygirl

The Triple Crown is not a tournament, it is three independent events, just like the Golf and Tennis Grand Slams are separate independent tournaments. Each has its’ own criteria.


49 posted on 06/07/2014 4:51:19 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kingattax

I can’t say. I was pulling for Cali Chrome like everyone else, and yes it looked off.
There is a lot of planning and strategy that goes into a season much less a big race. I thought he looked off about a third in. Was expecting a burst at the end but that’s a really long track.
But what an awesome horse.

Hopefully will see his sister out there soon.

As screwed up as America is right now, America needs a Seabiscit


50 posted on 06/07/2014 4:53:02 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: kingattax

It’s always a bad idea to leave your horse on the rail. You’re just asking to get boxed in. When I saw him go to the rail, I knew he was in trouble. He’s never come from the rail in his other races. He just had nothing left. Jock wen t to the whip and got...no response.


51 posted on 06/07/2014 4:53:06 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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The three races were never design to be equal. The conditions change, race
length changes and who knows what the horses feel like at any given time.

Here are the race tracks involved:

1.Kentucky Derby, run over the 1 1/4-mile (2.0 km) dirt
track at Churchill Downs in Louisville, Kentucky;

2.Preakness Stakes, run over the 1 3/16-mile (1.9 km) dirt
track at Pimlico Race Course in Baltimore, Maryland;

3.Belmont Stakes, run over the 1 1/2-mile (2.4 km) dirt
track, the longest in USA thoroughbred racing, at Belmont
Park in Elmont, New York,


52 posted on 06/07/2014 4:54:41 PM PDT by deport
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To: wideawake
California Chrome's owner gave an interview right after the race and he is officially the sorest loser ever. He utterly beclowned himself.

He has a nasty habit of complaining about a lot of things. Didn't think he was treated properly at Churchill Downs during Derby either.

53 posted on 06/07/2014 4:55:04 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: dfwgator

Then they shouldn’t be offering prize money and trophy for winning all three.


54 posted on 06/07/2014 4:55:05 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: ponygirl

i kind of agree also...but, i wasn’t too crazy about the jockeys ride today...he seemed tentative, but, Chrome did look fatigued.


55 posted on 06/07/2014 4:55:47 PM PDT by basalt
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To: ponygirl

NFL teams have missed the playoffs in one conference only to watch a team with a worse record not only make the playoffs in the other conference but get to the SB and even win it.

Each race has their qualifying rules. Even in the old days there were horses that ran at Belmont and not the other two. In the era of the “super horse” they didn’t tend to contend, but they were there.

Horseracing is losing popularity because it’s actually kind of boring. There’s 2 minutes of race and 10 minutes of setup and then 2 more minutes of race. Add to that the frequency with which horses get injured, and those injuries result in death. And then you spread Indian casinos all over the country so people can get their gamble on someplace other than the track. A Crown winner might gin up excitement for a couple of years, or maybe not. Part of what makes the Crown exciting now is it’s been so long since it’s been won, once somebody wins it the drought is over, it might even become common again, which gets rid of suspense.


56 posted on 06/07/2014 4:56:02 PM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: basalt

Chrome had to get out to an early lead, and it didn’t happen, once he went outside, it was really over.


57 posted on 06/07/2014 4:57:32 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Lizavetta
He whined about fresh horses being allowed to compete in Crown events (as they always have), about the short duration between Crown events (has been that way since the Triple Crown began), and how they have to change the rules because his precious little dreams were shattered.

He wants everyone who does a better job than his team did to have an asterisk next to their names.

58 posted on 06/07/2014 4:57:38 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: kingattax

I think horse racing has become more global in the past 36 years. Before that, it was more an all American event.

New international resources produce great horses. Enter them and one will win.

It is like poker. Big names in Poker don’t win many of the big tournaments. There are too many talented and lucky guns that make it all the way. The final table at the WSOP is populated by nine no names, 21-28 years old.


59 posted on 06/07/2014 5:01:46 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: discostu
Doesn't matter. Once you get to the playoffs, you play all the way through until you lose. Except for the initial bye game, you get no passes during playoffs. And none of those teams that didn't make the playoffs are suddenly allowed in once it has begun.

As Chromes owner said, horses have to earn enough points to qualify for the Derby. Once you're in, that should be the field for the Triple Crown. No spoilers allowed.

60 posted on 06/07/2014 5:05:20 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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