Posted on 05/25/2014 3:33:44 AM PDT by lee martell
We, who read the news are still coming to terms with the tragic killings of six innocent people and one suicide in Southern California Friday night. I read much of what is being called the Manifesto of Elliot Rodgers. Elliot was very ill, and had been chronically in a state of paranoid hysteria since his teen years. Elliot was also a very good writer. His utility of the language was quite sophisticated for someone his age. When I hear the term 'Manifesto', I naturally think of the ugliest one; Mein Kampf, which is almost back to back rationalized hatred, egoism and institutionalized bigotry. It is a closely focused and heavy handed collection of propaganda. When I read Elliot Rodgers 'Manifesto' There was definitely a large amount of hatred being expressed, for himself and others. However, there was also a first person narrative, using his 'authors' voice. Rodgers described in great detail the types of environments that made up what was called his life from age 5 onto past 21 years. Rodgers expressed closeness to his family, but also expected them to constantly provide for his needs. Even though many of Elliot's favorite memories with his family were centered around Christmas holiday gatherings, I was struck that there was no direct reference to religion at all in his family.
Not all families are religious, I'm not going to pretend that I'm surprised. However, in light of all that has occured, this lack of spirituality in the family is all the more unfortunate. It seems no one ever told or hinted to Elliot that life is often easier to bear if you can have faith in more than just yourself and in other people. Rodger's bio mother is from an Asian country. That part of the world has a history full of religious and spiritual faiths. There are some areas that practice Buddhism, Shinto, Christianty, Tao and Zen. I understand some people become focused on the job of survival and simply don't pencil in any deep observations based on the ephemerals of what is to them unproved beliefs.
Elliot was caught something of a Peter Pan syndrome, a Toys R Us, not wanting to grow up, and not really being expected to until he was about 20. By then, both parents had gotten their fill of his selfish, greedy ways. Neither parent wanted him living with them full time. So what may be a downside to being reared in a somewhat wealthy family, is that you can become obsessed with matters of the inner world very easily.
I was struck by how extreme his elitism became. Some would say his bigotry. "How could those girls pick this guy, the descendant of slaves, when they should be picking me, the descendant of English royalty?" His audacity was astounding. If the ending wasn't so horrifically tragic and life altering, it would hold a certain brand of black humor. However, Elliot was not joking, and part of the problem was that he tool everything, including himself way too seriously. It's unfortunate that his 'Manifesto' is out there now, fully available to download online. All the family business is an open book during those times. Here is a feature of irony; Peter Rodger; Elliot's dad, produced and directed a film in 2009 called "What Does God Mean?" where he spent 3 years traveling around the world collecting short interviews with stars and celebrities asking them what "God" meant to them. Participants included Ringo Starr and The actor who starred in Wolverine. The movie sunk like a stone, bankrupting Peter and setting him back financially for many years. The Hunger Games was his most recent, lucrative work as assistant director. Elliot describes that time as "I was embarrassed at dad telling everyone about his financial troubles". No empathy for the dad was expressed. People seem to forget all the useful life lessons in morality young children can learn from religious instruction. They may chose not to do the right thing later on in life, but they do very much know the difference between right and wrong.
Then someone needs to bring in the College Professors and find out how they could like a POS like this slip through their system.
About the reality of evil.
To be honest a lot of this was foreseeable. I actually read most of his ramblings. He reflects fondly on his youth, then at the age of 5-6 his parents divorce and he jumps between the two of them. The first problem arises when his step mother arrives on the scene.
Basically when he stays with his mother she gives him anything he wants, spends on him lavishly, essentially lets him do whatever he wants. His step mother... not so much. It’s pretty clear reading between the lines that she probably thought he was spoiled and rude, and this does not sit well with him, and establishes a long pattern of behavior.
Interestingly, although his dad appears to be around a bit, he’s mentioned mainly in passing, as if he had little real interaction with his son.
the father Peter Rodgers is (was?) an arrogant patronizing liberal, scornful of religion and “God”, equating George Bush’s faith in God (purported as his reason to invade Iraq in countless leftwing blogs) to that of al Qaeda’s faith in “god” as an excuse to fly planes into the WTC and Petagon
There are Youtube videos of this pretentious schmuck being interviewed several years ago by gushing sycophants, as he talks about his movie “Oh My God” which set out to mock scorn and discredit believers of all faiths. While Peter Rodger was traveling the world on this project to mock faith in God, his son was devolving into insanity in solitude, with the pastime of violent video games.
Check out youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9C7zgR3yPk
the father and his views on God and faith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeoyvPgA44A
Peter Rodger’s “life work”
May it console him now and forever
“Over a three-year period I traveled across 23 countries asking children, religious leaders, celebrities, fanatics and the common Man what God means to them” Peter Rodger
http://www.omgmovie.com/about-movie/
Did you ever ask your son?
They have taken down all the videos of the shooter talking about what he was going to do and why.
I say we get the corpses of these suicide killers, and torture that.
http://www.movieguide.org/reviews/oh-my-god.html
“The anti-Christian voice is from Bob Geldof, a musician most well known for organizing Live Aid in the 1980s. Through bleeped profanity, Geldof delivers the sentiments of a mocker who says there is no God, yet seems oddly angry at someone who, according to him, doesn’t exist.”
Another man who just buried a 25 yr old child.
After a Christian funeral.
Yes it is. It is God's will.
News flash! (From an older generation to the younger generation)
The guy was a fruitcake or as we used to say “odd”. They existed when we were that age. We, not being so stupid as to believe all the equality crap and sissy stuff preached today, knew such people were mentally unstable and unpredictable in their interactions with other people and society. We made our own evaluation - friend or foe.
We looked a guy in the “”eye”. And from his reaction we knew how serious he was. The mildly serious we kidded. Others, we could sense would not hesitate to “squash us like a bug”. It was the latter reaction we carefully evaluated to determine if they were “putting us on”. If they weren’t, we avoided them as they say “like the Plague” because “they were for real”.
You can still do this today. Look into the eyes of any of the mass murderers like the Sandy Lake guy and you will get my drift. Ask teachers, how many of them can look into little “Johnny’s” eyes and actions and tell you he is headed for the state pen or worse, maybe even a liberal political future :).
Factor in the mind altering drugs and you have a bunch of crazies walking around on either side. My generation believed in institutionalizing such people for their own “safety” and to “protect” society. But in our new “progressive” society there are few institutions left and he has the “right” to be as crazy as he wants to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fn36l_z3WY
Maybe early on, if somebody had have opened a few cans of “whoop ass”, maybe this guy’s attitude would have changed and he could have become somebody’s best friend. (or boy friend or something). Maybe six innocent people would not be dead.
Are you learning something?
It is my own theory based on patterns of aloneness observed in the garden story relevant to the Rodgers manifesto. The issue I’m bringing up isn’t so much about God’s aloneness, (which I do believe inclined the Father to create us), but about the folly of man’s weakness for corporeal bonding which lead Elliot to do what he did. What’s your theory of what motivated God to make humans?
This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy on violence.
But it's actually selective censorship. Google, YouTube, FaceBook and such are part of the NWO elite, ultra-wealthy, puppeteers group. Their position in the new godless kingdom is to guide the masses via "social media". It's sort of a cyber cattle prod system. They have a different set of rules---global elite ones---and they certainly are not bound by any one country's stupid "constitution".
The creepy video is still available at The Blaze, though: Extreme Caution: This Frightening YouTube Video May Be the Manifesto of Santa Barbara Mass Slayer
We need to pray for the conversion of all to Christ.
Thank you for that actual title; “Oh My God”, was the work. I was up in the wee hours posting, and I couldn’t recall the name of his movie. He had expected this movie to be his big breakthrough and was flummoxed when it flopped. I’ve never heard anything of it pro or con. At the very least, he had poor publicists.
I’m all thumbs online except for the basics, but I’ve heard once something is online, it’s very difficult to completely pull it out ‘by the roots’. People could and probably did Screen-Save those incrimminating Youtubes. The police will be looking like chumps to have let this boy go because he was, how did they put it? “A polite and wonderful human” wow.Really?
Look for those videos to go to another video playing site.
Rather, we are seeing the reality of seeing the war between Heaven and Hades made visable.
i am sure he had/has issues with our without community college... how did he slip through his parents/family?
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