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1 posted on 05/17/2014 11:31:00 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Weight advantage trumps horsepower.


2 posted on 05/17/2014 11:35:04 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort (If you have a Boehner lasting more than 23 years, seek immediate medical attention)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The upward angle of the pulling line puts the newer tractor at a bit of a disadvantage, but it would have probably lost even with a horizontal line.


3 posted on 05/17/2014 11:36:07 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

18 horsepower and about 1500 ft/lbs of torque. Also, the steam tractor was taller than the John Deere.


4 posted on 05/17/2014 11:40:07 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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So which is greener, the John Deere tractor or the steam tractor? At only 18 hp, I suspect the more powerful steam tractor is greener.


5 posted on 05/17/2014 11:42:16 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Wow — they just don’t make horses like they used to.


6 posted on 05/17/2014 11:42:46 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Together the team makes a great trencher.


7 posted on 05/17/2014 11:43:05 AM PDT by Average Al
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Progress?

The steam engine may have put out a rather unimpressive 18 horse power but the torque from that steam engine is impressive


11 posted on 05/17/2014 11:53:43 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

That isn’t a JD engine, by color maybe a CAT.

Hitch is angled enough to lift the back wheels up reducing traction significantly for the JD.

The JDs 4 wheel drive wasn’t engaged.

Still entertaining.


12 posted on 05/17/2014 12:05:53 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

A stock John Deere 8130 is only 240 HP and weighs 25,000 pounds

This one has been modified for tractor pulling


14 posted on 05/17/2014 12:11:02 PM PDT by digger48
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhgHrDbN4EU

Challenger pulling full stack train up Archer Hill.


18 posted on 05/17/2014 12:21:06 PM PDT by crz
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A Chessie working HARD!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2BoMFZcnDI


21 posted on 05/17/2014 12:36:13 PM PDT by crz
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Everyone knows the first part f the saying, “Nothing runs like a Deere”. Few know the second part, Nothing smells like a John.” Thanks to the late Ed Johnson at the Ohio State Fair many years ago.


30 posted on 05/17/2014 1:03:45 PM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Low end torque is worth something, especially for stump pulling.


35 posted on 05/17/2014 1:09:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

It isn’t power that did it, it was weight. Note also that the John Deere was a four wheel drive equipped vehicle, but it was only running in two wheel drive (the front wheels weren’t spinning. The drivers intended the steam tractor to win.


39 posted on 05/17/2014 1:41:28 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age didnÂ’t end because we ran out of stones)
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Compression!

There is a weight advantage but it is compression that won the day. The huge piston in the steam tractor immediately gives almost full torque to the flywheel because of the larger compression force pushing on it, with no exhaust values. The JD horsepower was mostly lost in spinning wheels and exhaust. It was out torqued by the larger compression advantage of the steam tractor. A level draw bar hookup would not have changed the outcome nor would have weight added to the JD to match the syeam tractors weight.


45 posted on 05/17/2014 3:21:18 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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The steam tractor’s hitch gives it a tremendous mechanical advantage because it is lifting the JD’s rear end upward. Therefore, the JD’s has very little ground pressure on it’s rear wheels.


46 posted on 05/17/2014 3:31:35 PM PDT by fso301 (uires that you believe)
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Nothin’ doesn’t run like having mass on your side. :’)


50 posted on 05/17/2014 4:09:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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I wonder how a modern diesel locomotive would fair against a good old steam locomotive?


51 posted on 05/17/2014 4:47:33 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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Torque, cubes and bulk win every time as long as you don’t want to go too fast.


54 posted on 05/17/2014 8:39:11 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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