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To: Corporate Democrat

So, you apparently don’t asupprt arming them (the McCainiac position) which I don’t asupport.

But, do you support NGO’s, mercs, and what some have said took place - US AID working in Ukraine.

Do you support the last three?


8 posted on 05/16/2014 10:55:41 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Well funding mercenaries is pretty much the same as arming them, if not worse. And I don’t support funding the Kiev government with anything more than symbolic aid. Because the EU has already stepped up, and the oligarchs are doing they can without our help. I don’t think the US can really control NGO’s either.

What I meant was things like real sanctions, oil deals, weaning Europe off of Russia, restricting Russia’s access to SWIFT and restricting Russian oligarch assets from leaving the United States and the EU, if we can manage it. Proportionate retaliation.


10 posted on 05/16/2014 11:08:36 AM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
On the subject of unofficial involvement, of any type, in the Ukrainian tragedy, there needs to be a further understanding that is really beside the point of what is a proper United States' involvement in foreign affairs, in general.

Both Putin & the Ukrainians are stuck with the consequences of Stalin's deliberate effort to undermine Ukrainian ethnic cohesion, after World War II. The most vicious of all the Socialist dictators of his era, deliberately resettled millions of ethnic Russians in the Ukraine, which had shown a great affinity for any alternative to Bolshevik Communism during the War. Sorting this out, today, is a real problem, however it may be ignored by a ideologically indoctrinated mass media in the West.

Under these circumstances, the best course for those in Western Nations, who would like to see the Ukraine realize its very considerable natural potential, is to adopt helpful but not intrusive postures. World War III, would have no possible beneficial effect on either the Ukrainians or the Russians--nor on any people on the face of the earth.

William Flax

11 posted on 05/16/2014 11:09:06 AM PDT by Ohioan
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