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To: Graewoulf; KC_Lion; Windflier

Well, that would be because the collective ‘we’ is not nearly as conservative as the collective ‘we’ likes to claim.

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the following is targeted at the collective ‘we’, not any one person...since no one person got us where we are.

The Republicans doing the Dems bidding did not get there by magic or accident. People on and within the political Right put them there. now “we” are expelling all sorts of anger and frustration.

Well what the hell did ‘we’ expect when ‘we’ voted for those kinds of people? Contrary to the popular head in the sand notion pushed hard by some people claiming to be right wing conservatives, who went out of their way to attack others in a completely Alynski manner, one does not move a political party right by electing people spouting leftist ‘values’. Sorry it does not work that way regardless of how evil the Democrat is. It does not work that way regardless of how many times you say it to your buddies or your opponents.

All it does is elect more leftists. I actually asked several KIDS and they figured out what a bunch of supposedly right wing conservatives could not. And when a child proves to have a better grasp on politics, right and wrong than an adult, perhaps that/those adults should be recognized as the source of our collective problem.

We do not have open leftists electing the people now working harder than Democrats to pass amnesty. We have closet case at best leftists. And likely more than a couple GOP operatives thrown in.

If people want this mess ‘begun’ to be sorted out, then they have to stop supporting leftism in the ranks. On internet forums and in DC. But UNTIL there are elected people in DC that will listen and agree, it is a lie to spout ‘feet to the fire’ nonsense. Most of us not only fight those that try holding feet to fire, but right now, the pols in DC understand how empty a threat it is.

Why should they worry when no one will even fight back against their screaming minions online?

This is a matter of principle and priority. Principles do matter and we must do what we EFFECTIVELY can to forward conservatism. And until we rid ourselves of the enemy within that ties us up at every turn and blocks us from organizing against the GOP/Uniparty, we may as well all just sit down and shut up because we are not doing anything positive for the movement.


34 posted on 05/15/2014 9:06:30 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart; Graewoulf; Windflier; RKBA Democrat
What is that old Saw about being better governed out of the first 200 people in the phone book than by elected officials?

Yeah, I can see where that comes from.

35 posted on 05/15/2014 9:11:30 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart
until we rid ourselves of the enemy within that ties us up at every turn and blocks us from organizing against the GOP/Uniparty, we may as well all just sit down and shut up because we are not doing anything positive for the movement.

The political left wins because their rank and file and their elected reps are ideologically in accord with each other. We on the right are not. We're scattered from center left, to moderate middle, to center right, to far right.

The right wing base runs from center right to far right, while our elected reps (mostly) run from mushy middle to center left. This splintered state of the Republican party is why we continue to lose elections and the country to the degraded left.

The other side figured out the winning dynamics long ago. They forced their moderates and conservatives out of their party and demanded ideological cohesion among their troops. We haven't gotten there yet, but it's high time we did.

We need to throw out our moderates and liberals. Make 'em join the other side if they can't bear to support the fundamental American principles that define our side.

And what better place to start, than at the grass roots level of public forums like this one?

40 posted on 05/15/2014 9:36:20 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I agree.

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We have voted to harm our children, without ever admitting that that has been the cumulative effect of our voting.

A crude shorthand way of writing this opinion is the intent of the following poem by yours truly:

The Anti-Children, Free Stuff, American Family, Political Dynasties:

Your list is well intended,
Of that I’m very sure.
What is lacking is the reason
That these family jobs endure.

We-who vote them in,
Have we our reasons?
We-who re-elect them,
Must have reasons too?

What the reasons are
It is obvious to know:
We all like to LIVE LARGE,
Take our free stuff and go!
“Charge everything to our kids:
charge, Charge, CHARGE!”

“Politicians will be politicians,
Just as boys will be boys.”
Is what we laugh and say,
By those who hate their kids
And vote to make them pay, Pay, PAY!

“No!” You say, “NO!
You’re not talking about ME!
I LOVE my kids!” is your reply - - -
But who will be stuck
To pay your greedy free stuff bills,
When you die, Die, DIE?

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In 2014 it is time, - - - time for a change.


44 posted on 05/16/2014 5:26:06 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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