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'I loathe the hijab. I too like the feel of the sun and the wind on my hair. Is this a big sin?
Daily Mail UK ^ | May 13, 2013 | Ted Thornhill

Posted on 05/13/2014 4:27:34 PM PDT by opentalk

It’s illegal for women in Iran to appear in public without wearing a headscarf – or hijab - but dozens have posted bare-headed photographs of themselves to a Facebook page called Stealthy Freedoms of Iranian Women.

Punishment in Iran for not wearing a hijab ranges from a fine to imprisonment, but despite the risks around 150 photographs have been uploaded to the site, which at the time of writing has over 140,000 likes.

The photographs show women in huge variety of places and poses.


(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: iran; islam; womensrights
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' I loathe the hijab. I too like the feel of the sun and the wind on my hair. Is this a big sin?': Iranian women go bare-headed on Facebook in defiance of country’s strict Islamic laws

1 posted on 05/13/2014 4:27:34 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

All people long to be free. But too many look for ways to deny people freedom. Islam is one of the biggest offenders.


2 posted on 05/13/2014 4:32:40 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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#BBCtrending: The women in Iran taking off the hijab

...Ever since the Islamic Revolution 35 years ago, it has been illegal for a woman to leave the house without wearing a headscarf. The punishment ranges from a fine to imprisonment.

"My hair was like a hostage to the government," says Masih Alinejad, an Iranian political journalist who lives in the UK and who set up the Facebook page. "The government still has a lot of hostages," she adds

3 posted on 05/13/2014 4:33:37 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Wonderful! I can’t even imagine having to go around like that...or they way they have to go around in Saudi Arabia, not only with their heads and faces covered, but with a perforated leather mask over their eyes.

What the heck is it with Muslims? Why are they so crazy? A culture where a girl can be “married off” to an adult male by her family at the age of 9 (and some men do come and take possession of the child at that time) and boys are routinely raped at puberty by their fathers and homosexuality is normal but never acknowledged and they don’t drink but spend a lot of their time smoking pot or hash...this is something we’re supposed to admire?


4 posted on 05/13/2014 4:34:25 PM PDT by livius
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To: opentalk

Bet the vast majority of Iranians joining the “likes” are Iranian young men.


5 posted on 05/13/2014 4:35:53 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: opentalk

Iranian women are gorgeous, shame on those who wish to cover up that beauty.


6 posted on 05/13/2014 4:38:29 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Persian women are some of the most beautiful in the world.


7 posted on 05/13/2014 4:40:17 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: opentalk
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step, and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it (Islam) has vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

Winston Churchill, The River War

8 posted on 05/13/2014 4:51:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: opentalk

I feel that way about bicycle helmets.


9 posted on 05/13/2014 4:52:19 PM PDT by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: livius
What the heck is it with Muslims? Why are they so crazy?

It's an extremely powerful, extremely evil and extremely hardy meme that is extremely resistant to change.

10 posted on 05/13/2014 4:55:30 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: livius

Any culture that has used Cannabis as an intoxicant for thousands of years, appears “crazy” to Western man, whether Hindu, or Muslim.

They look just about what we would think a culture would look like, if it smoked Hashish and pot for a thousand years.

Western man has always wanted to stay away from it’s use as an intoxicant, from the time of Greece, to the centuries of the Crusades, up until the 60s today.


11 posted on 05/13/2014 5:08:34 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
I don't think that is the cause.

Middle Eastern culture was very advanced until the war cult of Islam took over. Some of the most advanced civilizations in history thrived there for thousands of years with cannabis. Then all innovation stopped under Islam so I would say that is the more likely cause.

The Chinese and Indians have used Cannabis for even longer than middle easterners. It was common in China until the communists and remains defacto legal in India today.

Cannabis always was and remains very popular with middle Eastern Jews. It is defacto legal in modern Israel and people smoke openly in the streets and hookah bars.

12 posted on 05/13/2014 6:09:37 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

All weird areas, all inward looking and stoner like, not anything like Western man.


13 posted on 05/13/2014 6:11:44 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
So their different skin color, eye shape, physique, hair types, etc are also the result of cannabis? Their minds are even more different than their appearance and it has nothing to do with cannabis.

People from different areas are, you know, just different. It's all due to the conditions they adapted to.

“Weird” is just another word for different. And Western man has only been “on top” for a few hundred years. And the only reason we are more materially successful are a few world-changing discoveries by a handful of people that gave us a head start. All modern innovation stemmed from those core inventions.

Asians are at least equally intelligent and hardworking. The timing of the discoveries was simply on our side. Had the Chinese created the steam engine first, they would likely be ruling the world right now. Steam led to vast amounts of coal. Coal led to manufacturing and military. The British started it and ruled most of the world for some time.

14 posted on 05/13/2014 6:48:36 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

Great, one of those discussions, if you think they aren’t weird, and want to compare them favorably to Western civilization, then at least you won’t be suffering as man slips into darkness, as the concepts of freedom and individuality and helping your fellow man, and science for all, die out from the colonization of the West.

I guess I insulted your Cannabis.


15 posted on 05/13/2014 7:04:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: dfwgator

Yes they are. I knew a few in college; all beauties. It’s a crime against humanity to conceal these women.


16 posted on 05/13/2014 7:12:11 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: ansel12
The concepts you describe were absent for the majority in the West for most of history. Individual freedom in any civilization was non existent for thousands of years until the USA. It was an anomoly even among Western men. It remains to this very day for most of the west when you look under the false veneer of freedom.

Why? Freedom only truly thrives on the Frontier and sparsely populated areas (like the entire USA once was). And only because the elite can not project power there.

Rule by he corrupt elite is 100% inevitable once society becomes densely populated and structured. The same has always been true for East, West, North and South.

You didn't insult anything. I just don't think there is any logic to the “cannabis civilization” theory that only you seem to see and post repeatedly. By all means, please explain and prove me wrong. All you are saying is “those people are weird” which is subjective and not logic. Heck, individuals from the same family can seem “weird” to each other. All it means is that people are different.

Also remember that it is the elite that control the direction and put a uniform face on a people. When you are judging any people as a whole, you are really only judging their elite. The individuality and differences of each nation's elite have far more influence on a society than the 5-10% of serfs that are regularly intoxicated.

17 posted on 05/13/2014 7:56:26 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

Rather than get into an endless discussion on the merits of Western Civilization compared to your Arab, parts of China and India, preference, I will accept that you would want to explain their superiority over Western Civ, many Cannabis defenders believe the same, in fact it is kind a trait the majority of the Cannabis crowd share, and that has been promoted since the 60s.

I don’t share that view, nor are they equal.


18 posted on 05/13/2014 8:03:50 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
I don't have a preference and don't believe any people are inherently “better”. The only differences are circumstances/timing and the individual will of their elite. I dislike some of the resultant differences and you obviously do too.

But understand that people rise, people change and people fall. It's hard to believe but western man could someday be as twisted as the Islamists. And Arabs could someday have a more free and advanced society than ever existed.

My point is it's mostly circumstances and will of the elite that defines a society, not what intoxicant 5-10% people use on their free time. I'm asking you to prove that wrong, not whether western civilization is better right now (which I DO AGREE WITH).

19 posted on 05/13/2014 8:18:01 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: opentalk

I like to see an Iranian women in a bikini. OK I am a healthy American male - is thata crime? :-)


20 posted on 05/13/2014 8:38:09 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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