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Heinlein, Hugos, and Hogwash
Intercollgiate Review ^

Posted on 05/08/2014 7:29:55 PM PDT by Perdogg

Robert Heinlein could not win a Hugo Award today.

If you are a fan of science fiction, you know how shocking that statement is. If you are not a science fiction fan, I salute you for having better things to do with your time than read stories about space princesses being rescued from bug-eyed monsters by stalwart and clean-limbed fighting men of Virginia; but please let me explain why this is shocking.

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To: chesley

One example was counting hairs on fuzzy caterpillars.

That was given as an example of how the federal government could find find something that any applicant could do, even if they were a blind quadriplegic, should they wish to earn citizenship.

I can’t see that as a particularly hazardous duty.


81 posted on 05/09/2014 11:08:09 AM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: catman67; USNBandit; All
provision that you cannot vote as long as
you take money from the Government
..works for me...

82 posted on 05/09/2014 11:09:10 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? :-)
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To: chesley

BTW, I think John Kerry may have served in Vietnam...


83 posted on 05/09/2014 11:11:08 AM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: chesley
You had to be an honorably discharged veteran.

OTOH, no one has seen John F'n Kerry's DD-214...

84 posted on 05/09/2014 11:14:38 AM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: chesley

Does being drafted fit Into your theory? Just asking.


85 posted on 05/09/2014 11:25:16 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

Nope. No one was drafted, even in all out war. It was all volunteer, and you could quit just before going into combat, if .you so chose.

But it’s not my theory, and I’m not advocating for it. It’s just that so many people misunderstand what the idea actually was, and set up strawman arguments. Not saying that you’re doing that. You’re asking.


86 posted on 05/09/2014 11:33:40 AM PDT by chesley
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Let’s let Sci-Fi writing remain one of the last PC-untouched bastions of literature.


Too late. I let my subscription to “The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction” expire a couple years ago. I had subscribed since I got it as a birthday present in 1967 but it turned left. HARD left.

During the 2012 election they ran a story that was, not even thinly disguised, mormon-bashing. Add the tree-hugging, gaia-worshipping, human hating that is part of the warp and woof of leftism, and F&SF lost its charm.

They went from Ed Ferman, Isaac Asimov, Baird Searles, and all the great authors to being an organ of the DNC.

Hey, F&SF, ESAD! *spit*


87 posted on 05/09/2014 11:34:22 AM PDT by Peet (The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal. - Aristotle)
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To: null and void
Counting the hairs on a caterpillar.

Remember, though, that was just Juan Rico's speculation, and a somewhat facetious one, at that. He just said that they were legally obliged to find the blind man something to do to earn his franchise.

Maybe they were poisonous, spiky alien caterpillars with a bad attitude? :)

88 posted on 05/09/2014 11:36:23 AM PDT by chesley
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To: chesley

Good point...


89 posted on 05/09/2014 11:37:06 AM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Don't know.

I wouldn't mind the system. I served my hitch.

Any system will work as long as the guys with the guns want it to. Will it work as well as they taught in the “History and Moral Philosophy” classes? Don't know.

It couldn't be worse than what we've got today, with unelected federal judges and nameless bureaucrats making the rules, and a gutless Congress unwilling to stop them.

90 posted on 05/09/2014 11:39:28 AM PDT by chesley
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To: null and void

No one has. Kerry would probably have been kicked out of a properly run outfit, though.


91 posted on 05/09/2014 11:40:57 AM PDT by chesley
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To: chesley
I'm reminded of the Scientology condition of Liability:
The formula of Liability is:

1. Decide who are one’s friends.

2. Deliver an effective blow to the enemies of the group one has been pretending to be part of despite personal danger.

3. Make up the damage one has done by personal contribution far beyond the ordinary demands of a group member.

4. Apply for reentry to the group by asking the permission of each member of it to rejoin and rejoining only by majority permission. And if refused, repeating (2) and (3) and (4) until one is allowed to be a group member again.

Loads of Scientologists read #2 as requiring personal danger. It doesn't.
92 posted on 05/09/2014 11:41:48 AM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: chesley
I wouldn't mind the system. I served my hitch.

I wouldn't mind the system. I would be disenfranchised.

93 posted on 05/09/2014 11:43:23 AM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Mel Brooks on Blazing New Comedic Trails in ‘Blazing Saddles’

That movie was so good the first couple of times I saw it. Saw it a couple of years ago and the edits ruined it.

94 posted on 05/09/2014 11:57:38 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: chesley

oh you mean Heinlein.

read the book many years ago....saw the movie (the movie was a mockery of Heinlein pure and simple)

oh I though it was your theory.

in a perfect world Heinlein is right (or in a world where humans are fighting arachnids....). in reality there are people in the military as in civilian life who should not be allowed to vote/live next to me/ or breathe.

but I am not in charge of who lives or dies or votes.

Seems if you are a Dhimmicrat you can vote multiple times on election day and that does not go away after you are dead....funny right?


95 posted on 05/09/2014 12:04:19 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Starstruck

there are unedited versions...still being printed that way. you must have seen the broadcast tv version.


96 posted on 05/09/2014 12:07:24 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: null and void

once out...why would anyone want back in to the religion that worships Xemu or Xenu or whatever?

my take on this cult is that it is EST with aliens...(or is EST, scientology without Aliens)

I do love the south park take on it called “Trapped in the Closet” (seems Tom Cruise wont come out...)


97 posted on 05/09/2014 12:17:12 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero
First off, scientology doesn't worship Xemu, or Xenu, both spellings are used.

Xemu is regarded as an ancient Pol Pot/Hitler/Genghis Khan ultimate bad guy. One who has so badly bruised the human psyche that the damage done 75 million years ago still lingers to this day, and makes life on Earth a living Bedlam.

Second off, the data regarding Xemu are only found on OT-III and above. This data is NEVER EVER EVER discussed or disclosed to anyone on the lower levels. Scientology dogma says that the mere mention of this to someone not fully prepared by having worked their way up through the lower levels will cause the recipient to die (of restimulation caused pneumonia, for example).

Despite the second point, even beginning scientologists know that the world is a loony bin, and that through some process scientology offers the (only) hope of adding some sanity, both personal and societal, to the mix.

If one believes that, then one is very motivated to be a part of saving the world.

Also, I too liked that South Park episode, everything they say scientologists believe is true of any scientologists who have been exposed to OT-III and above only. They did leave out some of the more interesting details, the ones that make scientology actively dangerous to the environment...

See also:

So you have questions about Scientology...

98 posted on 05/09/2014 12:54:47 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: rbg81
Heinlein definitely had a deviant side. Want proof? In “Time Enough for Love”, Lazarus Long has a romantic relationship with his mother. ‘Nuff said.

You are correct.

99 posted on 05/09/2014 2:03:10 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Perdogg
I salute you for having better things to do with your time than read stories about space princesses being rescued from bug-eyed monsters by stalwart and clean-limbed fighting men of Virginia

I learned to read thanks to Edgar Rice Bourhoughs, John Carter, and Tarzan!

Mark

100 posted on 05/09/2014 7:19:02 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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