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1 posted on 05/08/2014 5:18:30 AM PDT by TurboZamboni
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Wait a second... I thought EVERY college student had to take at least one hard science? I personally took physics AND chemistry even though I wasn’t going those tracks. MOST ungrads I knew took Biology 101 which was amusing, because those lecture halls were ridiculous.


2 posted on 05/08/2014 5:21:18 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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you mean those courses in womens studies wont help you get a job!

*shocking*!

oh wait! there are always government appointments by democrats to give these people jobs!


3 posted on 05/08/2014 5:33:50 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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I have developed the view that perspective job applicants need to be able to demonstrate three areas of their personality:

Motivation / Discipline
Morals / Ethics
Skills / Education

Unfortunately, Colleges often only address the Education area. And sometimes, not even that area is well covered.


7 posted on 05/08/2014 5:37:49 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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Duh... this is why we can’t find US citizens to fill our IT jobs. We need at least 10 million H1B’s. IT unemployment here in DFW is less than 1.2%. There are very few US born citizens with any degrees or logical thinking skills.


9 posted on 05/08/2014 5:40:42 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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The solution is for the university to return to the traditions of a liberal arts education with a required undergraduate curriculum of substantive courses in science, math, literature, composition and speech that requires a student to learn how to learn.

That used to be what a high school diploma meant. Then the left destroyed public schools, so employers started requiring a BA or BS just to ensure they had basic English, science and math skills. Now they've degraded universities to the point that even that doesn't mean they have basic knowledge and skills.

11 posted on 05/08/2014 5:46:10 AM PDT by Hugin
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http://www.umass.edu/sje/doctoral.html


17 posted on 05/08/2014 6:21:30 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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I'll admit I took 1 'gut' course my last semester when I needed 2 credits to get to my 120, bowling. Good course to meet girls.
21 posted on 05/08/2014 6:31:15 AM PDT by AU72
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The medieval curriculum centered on logic, grammar and rhetoric. The objective was to train people to think and communicate logically. No wonder it’s called the Dark Ages.

Now, in this age of Enlightenment, learning centers on Diversity. That’s progress.


24 posted on 05/08/2014 6:36:21 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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I was a Chem major. By time I was done, I had minors in physics, math, and German, or was one or two credits shy. And that’s for an undergrad BS in Chemistry (I also double-majored in English/Mass Communications).

Today, I make my living in IT. My ticket to play there was a two-year Associate of Science that has paid off a hundred times better than my Bachelor’s.


27 posted on 05/08/2014 6:44:21 AM PDT by IronJack
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College is basically day-care with sex and alcohol for most people.


28 posted on 05/08/2014 6:44:51 AM PDT by fruser1
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Even back in 68, at the little Red Schoolhouse (Rutgers)I was able as a non-science major to take two semesters of something called "Physical Geography” to fulfill the science requirement. The one thing I remember to this day is “Brooklyn is gniess, but Manhatten is schist”.

To be fair, we had a lot of distribution requirements-one year math, two years foreign language, two semesters of literature over and above the first year writing classes, and two terms of “arts” - either music and or applied art or art history. We even had one credit required physed once a week as freshmen! If there are requirements today, look it up- they usually include at least one “gender” class.

34 posted on 05/08/2014 6:57:56 AM PDT by pineybill (or)
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A college graduate should be expected to be able to read complex material with understanding (including getting used to looking up unfamiliar words and terms so he DOES understand). He should be able to form opinions using logic, and be able to persuasively convey his opinions both verbally and in writing, using correct grammar and spelling.

This is what we USED to expect from our high school graduates, but now have difficulty obtaining from college grads.

The college graduate, in this technological age, should know mathematics through calculus and statistics, and should know the basics of physics, chemistry, and biology. He should know the basics of computing, and be able to research things online, use word processing, spreadsheets, etc.

He should know philosophy and be familiar with ancient Greek philosophy as well as more modern philosophers, and be able to argue aspects of their theories.

The reason why we have grads who cannot do this, is because our society has decided that EVERYONE should go to college, not just those who can actually master college-level material.

35 posted on 05/08/2014 7:01:32 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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You train people to do a job. You educate people to be good citizens.


37 posted on 05/08/2014 7:47:28 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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What the author/business leader either doesn't understand or fails to report is that well over 1/2 of college students are not smart enough to pass courses that are technical and involve rigorous learning.

They had no business going to college in the first place and would have been better served by learning a trade.

39 posted on 05/08/2014 8:08:34 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Excellent article. Too bad it had to be excerpted.


41 posted on 05/08/2014 8:17:45 AM PDT by meadsjn
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