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To: GunRunner
It would if Matthew were a parable, a morality tale, or embellished to get the point across.

The point was, that Heaven rejoiced and the dead on Earth rose for a time to join in the celebration. If it's a constructive myth, then it makes sense.


Be honest, GunRunner, Christ's miracles were and are taught as fact by faithful Churches.

Nowhere in Scripture does it say "this is just a myth".
524 posted on 05/31/2014 9:42:29 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen
How can you on the one hand say "Christ's miracles were fact" and then say some parts of the Bible "remain a mystery to us"?

Do you know the nature of it all or not? Didn't Christ often speak in parables? Why wouldn't his book do it as well?

The whole of idea of "justice" as described in the context of the God you worship is not any form of justice that is conceivable to me and many other people. It may be some form of codified law in your mind, but it's not justice in the sense that we understand it.

Simply being sorry for something and casting those bad deeds on a human blood sacrifice 2,000 years ago in a Roman suburb does not relieve you of your responsibilities, any more than the Hebrews absolved themselves by casting their evil on a goat and sending it out to die in the wilderness on the Day of Atonement.

You keep missing the third option. If there were good evidence that any of this stuff were true, I don't want any part of it. I don't want to live on eternal divine soma, not caring about anything and singing hymns for a trillion years, and I reject the ridiculous idea of eternal torment for not thinking the right thoughts.

There's no reason to believe that 60 to 90 years of Earthly existence in any way merits eternal reward or eternal punishment, and it isn't justice in any way that is recognizable to me, where your teenager who was abused by a priest turns away from God because of the abuse, and goes to the flames, while the priest who did the abusing legitimately repents and sits next to you in the clouds. How is that justice?

It's a ridiculous, horrendous idea, and I'm extremely glad that there's no evidence for it.

525 posted on 05/31/2014 10:10:26 PM PDT by GunRunner
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