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To: ifinnegan
I specifically said morality was a matter for homo sapiens exclusively, not all mammals, or even all primates.

Homo sapiens function in a way that makes us form tribes, communities, cultures, societies, and civilizations. The ones that act morally survive, and the ones that don't die out, even if it takes hundreds of thousands of years for those fates to be dealt. On the civilizational level, a long term example would be the Roman Empire and a short term example would be the Empire of Japan.

So yes, there is an instinctive and possibly evolutionary reason for why morality is innate.

I never said it was exclusively innate, and that a world with maximum suffering being undesirable is a supposition.

It doesn't even look like you have an argument to make. I've never seen someone get so excited over the dictionary definition of an item of discussion. I'm providing real world reasons for arguing in a moral way.

Not sure what you're about. Maybe you're a misanthrope?

223 posted on 05/05/2014 11:30:26 AM PDT by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner

hundreds of thousands = hundreds OR thousands


224 posted on 05/05/2014 11:31:06 AM PDT by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner

“The ones that act morally survive, and the ones that don’t die out...”

I don’t think there is evidence to support this.

You obviously don’t understand how the examples you cite don’t support you and illustrate a severe lack of understanding of evolutionary theory.

I’m just responding to pronouncements you made; asking questions. You should welcome them and not be defensive.

You and I, of course, both share the same views on morality. That we should not harm others and cause suffering and work for what is best for humanity from at the individual level to a large scale level regarding all of mankind.

This has not been a universal view of human cultures by any stretch of the imagination and where such morality is common, it is based on traditional religious views that do encompass the transcendent or supernatural, which provides an authority for holding to this morality.

You are saying there is a basis for this morality being universal without the need for a transcendent authority. But I don’t think such an argument can be supported.

So I’m curious how you argue for morality.

I also find it interesting how religious based traditional morality is the same as what you espouse. But you don’t seem to know or acknowledge that your pronouncements on morality are simply the traditional Judeo-Christian ethics that have underpinned Western civilization.


227 posted on 05/05/2014 11:59:34 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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