Posted on 05/01/2014 10:50:49 AM PDT by dayglored
I too am one of them still using XP one machine, the one I am using now as I type. I downloaded the fix today too. I have two other machines running Windows 7, but am slow to get used to it, having run XP for so many years. Windows 7 does not have the ‘feel’ of XP and many things seem different.
After I transfer everything from this machine to one of the newer ones, including all my Outlook files, I will be using one of the ‘7’ machines.
Btw, I need help to know how to transfer the Outlook files. I would welcome suggestions on the know how. These files are in Office 2007 and I am going to Office 2010 on the newer machine. I could upgrade this to 2010 if it would make the transfer easier.
Sure they’ll understand. Explain that it’s like having an old car that you can’t get parts, oil, battery, etc for: run it as long as you can, but when it breaks ain’t nobody interested in fixing it.
I didn’t expect to be doing this tonight, but I just put a discarded 20GB hard drive with XP service pack 1 on it, into one of my machines.
I got past the Admin password and am now admin, and now will try to go with service pack 3, but I don’t know if Microsoft update will require a license number.
That's a different situation. The technology simply didn't exist for streaming video in the earlier iPhones. . . or iOS. . . that Xfinity takes advantage of to stream their signal. Nor was it in the original iPad. That was a later development in the graphic ability and band width capabilities. The hardware couldn't support it.
If by Outlook files you mean your mail and offline folders, upgrading won’t make any difference since there is no file format change. The files are normally in a subdirectory of your profile on the C:\ drive (next to your Documents) It is a hidden file so you need to enable viewing hidden and or system files in your Explorer. Find the folder with “filename.pst” file(s) in it and move all of the contents to the new install in the same location. BTW in the same directory tree with the .pst files you will also find other office files like your custom dictionary, signature files, and address book.
Good luck.
“Alternatively, I just installed Apple OSX.9 Mavericks, the latest Mac operating system, on my SEVEN YEAR OLD 24” iMac with no problems. Works faster than it did with the OSX4 Tiger it shipped with. “
THIS.
Any time I have updated the OS on my Mac the computer ran faster. When I updated the OS on my PC the computer slowed down.
The issue is support for older hardware and that is the manufacturer's responsibility. It wouldn't be surprising that, for example, a video card mfgr not write new win 7 drivers for an 8 year old video card (after is “discontinued”). Now if you can use the xp drivers in Win7 then it should be okay. But that doesn't always work as promised.
My old raid mother board might not have the needed drivers and will probably default to some generic functionality.
BTW, I am not interested in streaming. I am only interested in reading my email. I can probably find other email apps but I like the one from xfinity.
BTW, my android cell phone is 3 years old and the xfinity app runs great on it. And it is free! Also, I am finding that many apps that are free on android cost from Apple.
It is all about supply and demand.
There are very profitable companies that supply parts for 80 year, 90 year old cars. I own a 1929 model A ford and have no problems finding parts for it. Even original parts.
Why? Because there is a demand for it. Because there is a business justification for it.
Now, lets consider XP. Apparently 20% of all PCs are still running it. That is probably 10s of millions of computers. I wouldn't mind paying a fee for continued support. Even if the fee ended up being more than the cost of the upgrade (over time). I suspect most people would agree.
The real question is “would MS be willing to offer the source code to a third party.” My guess would be no way, no how. Because there are probably features in XP that are in Win7 and Win8. So, would MS be willing to support XP for a fee? Apparently not.
The transfer. It is pretty easy but you should read up on it on the Internet. The Internet is your friend.
Brute force solution:
You'll have to locate the .pst file and copy it to the new machine and read it in. Questions: will the 2007 .pst be compatible with 2010. It should be since 2007 and 2010 are close together in time.
Also, the pst file can be rather large. ~ GBs. So, you'll need a flash drive. And you may have to OVERWRITE the pst on the Win7 machine. So make sure that you back up everything! I don't know how to merge two psts. The internet might help here.
And you can export your address book; csv (comma separated values) option is best. You should be able to read in the address book. Csv is a generic format and compatibility is not an issue.
Hey, I suggest that you network the two computers. Transfers will be a bit easier plus you'll be able to share files. You'll need is a place for both computers that is near your router and an Ethernet cable. Try to avoid wifi if you can.
Send me a personal note once you have started. Good luck!
My apologies. My error.
Thanks for the pointers and info. Sounds like you are in the “business.”
It must be tough for the hardware folks. I have noticed that computers have gotten “cheaper” in quality in recent years. At least Dell, anyway. Probably their effort to try to compete. Dell computers used to be built like a Sherman tank.
I read a while back that the touch screen market killed the laptop. I guess that it makes sense for the casual user however I prefer a desktop or laptop with a real keyboard if I am going to be typing a 50 page term paper. So there should still be a demand for PCs. Who knows.
Anyway, thanks!
Why do you have to upgrade? I have a first generation iPad and it still works just fine. I have some 10 year old Macs that still run just fine, however if I want to move to 4K those older machines just won't handle that, but I don't have to move to 4K.
They are but everyone won't go. Some Box makers are shipping new computers with Windows 7 installed.
Why are you using an Dedicated App for email??? The iPad and iPhones have an excellent built in email client to do that for you with a unified mailbox for every kind of email. It's considered one of the best around. . . easy to set up. I would never do what you're doing for email on an idevice.
The problem is not with Apple, it's with Xfinity and their App designer if THAT is where your problem lies. They could easily fix that. They are choosing not to. . . probably because they want you to have the streaming feature which requires the later phones and iPad. It is not just that Android.can magically do it . . a lot of Android phones of the vintage as yours could not have done it either. . . it depended on whether they had the right hardware too. Yours did.
As to free Apps and paid Apps. . . The difference is that on Android there are a LOT of advertising supported Apps. . . You only think they are free. But they are only free in exchange for YOU being willing to see advertising, giving up private data about you the app mines from your phone and your usage of it and other apps, and your movements. On Apple, none of that is allowed, so you buy the app. . . and you don't put up with invasive ads, invasions of your privacy, and being snooped on. If you get in bed with Google, expect the bed to be crowded.
You'll find the apps on iOS are more finished and work better, too. ;^)
Oh, and the latest report from the malware division. . . 99% of all mobile malware is written for, you guessed it! Android. In all of the malware for mobile there is only one for iOS. . . and then it's for Jailbroken iOS only. The rest of the one percent is RIMM, Symbian, and Windows Phone 8.
At some point, maybe soon, xfinity will no longer provide the legacy app. At least hat is what the message said.
Yes, I can use the crappy embedded email app.
I like to use XP example. XP was supported for 12 years. IOS4 only three/four.
Free is free. And the advertisements are not that obvious. I don't appreciated paying for an app that takes me to a website that I can find freely via a computer.
How much you wanna bet that they fee is an Apple thing. A tribute to Apple for the privilege of being on their platform. They developer probably gets nothing or very little.
That is they way Apple have always been.
Also, there is a cost premium with Apple products. Sometimes plus 50%. Always has been, always will be. It is because the are very monopolistic with their platform. Their platform is closed. Always have been, always will be.
Thanks for the info.
It is the same story with MS — every other OS is their beta test version.
Win98/Win2k was okay, WinME was terrible, XP was great, Vista was terrible, Win7 is great, Win8 is well, not that good.
Simply amazing. The sheer depths of ignorance and assumptions that your opinion is true when the facts are so easily learned that would pop your bubble.
How about here? Bold are better specs:
The Apple MacBook Pro 13" - I5 intel 2.4GHz, 8GB w/256GB SSD 2560x1600 PPI - OSX.9 Mavericks, 3.45lbs., ten hour battery usage.—retails brand new for $1499.
The Acer Aspire S7 13" - I5 Intel 1.6GHz, 8GB w/128GB SSD 2560x1440 PPI - Windows 8.1, 3lbs., six hour battery usage.—retails brand new for $1399.
Oh! and where is your so-called "Apple 50% premium" in this comparison of similar offerings in premium laptops???? Frankly, only bottom feeders claim it's there. Shall I compare phones? How about tablets?
Hey, I have been in the business for 30 years and I know all about the Apple strategy. Apple products ARE more expensive and they always be because their platform is closed and that results in little to no competition. In the end, this means more profit for Apple.
That is why, Apple only had minimal market share only up until very recently. What is their current PC market share? Still ONLY around 10%? And Android is still kicks arse in the handheld market.
1. My point is that Apple abandoned ALL OS upgrades for THEIR older hardware. And only after 4 years. That means in a couple of more years, I’ll have an expensive door stop. Apple is a BAD investment if you are a smart and frugal consumer.
2.So you are saying that developers don’t pay a “tribute” to Apple for the privilege of selling into their systems? I disagree. And guess who pays for the tribute that the developers pay to Apple? Lemme help you here — THE CUSTOMER. And that is why in part that Apple products are so much more expensive.
That is total BS that Apple is price competitive and you know it. What people pay for when using an Apple platform is ease of use. That has always been their strategy and some people, the less computer literate, are willing to pay for that premium.
As for quality:
My definition of quality is all inclusive and INCLUDES both the hardware AND the software. Because, if either doesn’t function that I end up with a useless brick.
We can talk about the Ipod battery issue of a few years ago, too. And yes, consumers are angry. Just read the blogs.
My final point is that paying for a new computer every 3 to 4 years at $1500 a pop is expensive. I want that investment to last as long as possible. And it is very clear that Apples business strategy is planned obsolescence at the expense of their customers.
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