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How 7 minutes could cost a trooper’s widow millions
NY Post ^ | April 27, 2014 | Susan Edelman

Posted on 04/28/2014 8:41:29 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

On Dec. 7, 2009, New York State Police narcotics investigator Richard O’Brien fell off a ladder while fixing his mother’s roof.

He lived for only three more hours after the fall — but in that brief time, fellow troopers tried to have him retired on disability.

Now, Stephanie O’Brien, his widow, is fighting in court, saying a faulty fax machine and a measly seven minutes mean she and the couple’s daughter would get a $342,000 death payout — rather than lifetime benefits that could total in the millions.

The case is the first involving an officer filing for a disability retirement on the day of his death, lawyers said.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: biggestgangintown; cultureofcorruption; disabilitypension; donutwatch; earlyretirement; government; pensions; ripoff; thugswithabadge
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To: rjsimmon

“A similar situation happened with several National Guardsmen a while back that were called to Active Duty. They all signed their SGLI forms (life insurance) and submitted them to their S-1 (admin) on the same day that they shipped off to Iraq. Their aircraft suffered a mishap and all perished. The court ruled that their intent was to be insured and therefore their spouses received the SGLI. That should be precedent for this case.”
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It is NOT a precedent. They signed up for LIFE INSURANCE and then later died in a plane crash—the “peril” for which SGLI insures. The State Trooper had life insurance which paid off when he lost his life—his fellow troopers and his family were simply trying to scam the taxpayers out of some undeserved benefits.


41 posted on 04/28/2014 10:03:54 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: oldtech

Ya Old prick. I like her.


42 posted on 04/28/2014 10:04:21 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: rjsimmon

No not at all. Nowhere near the same thing.


43 posted on 04/28/2014 10:04:45 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Safetgiver

Huh?


44 posted on 04/28/2014 10:04:51 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Fellow troopers rushed to the emergency room ... where O’Brien, 42, lay mortally injured and unconscious
How could he sign his retirement papers if he was unconscious?
He fell off his mother's roof, so why isn't the guy's wife suing her insurance company instead of fleecing the taxpayers?
45 posted on 04/28/2014 10:11:07 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The widow and those who assisted in trying to perpetrate this fraud should be charged with criminal conspiracy.

The other troopers should be fired.If that means loss of pensions,tough!

The widow should be fined a hefty amount .

All parties involved ruled ineligble for any future government employment.


46 posted on 04/28/2014 10:25:51 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: LambSlave
No it shouldn't! He wasn't injured in the line of duty, he was injured while working on his mother's roof.

I will claim ignorance in how LEOs work the legality of such, but in the military during ANY injury, whether on or off duty, an investigation (JAG) is conducted to determine if the injury was "In the line of duty" and has nothing to do with whether the person was at work or not. Lots of car accident injuries, home accidents, etc. are considered "In the line of duty" simply because there was no misconduct (illegal activity). If LEOs operate under the same presumption then the incident I cited would be precedent. If not, then all bets are off.

47 posted on 04/28/2014 10:29:41 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Dear about to be departed, I need you to hurry up and sign this insurance before you are dead. Sympathy? Really?

No, genius... sympathy for a dead husband. Milking the system... no. I think I was clear for the literate.

48 posted on 04/28/2014 10:31:01 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: BipolarBob

Amen!


49 posted on 04/28/2014 10:32:13 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Safetgiver

LOL! Thats about all they will get.


50 posted on 04/28/2014 10:38:07 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: rjsimmon

As a veteran of the US Army, I understand where you are coming from. As you are likely aware, as an enlisted soldier at least, you are available for duty 24/7 in many assignments, and the property of the US government. Your actions are basically at the whim of your commanding officer, often even in your off duty time, so such a policy has merit. It never crossed my mind that such might be the case for LEOs, I see them as no different than any other state or federal civilian employee, but you raise an interesting point.


51 posted on 04/28/2014 10:44:40 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

He should have been doing drywall, like every other cop and firefighter.


52 posted on 04/28/2014 10:51:55 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: PaulCruz2016

I am sure that it was his other cop friends. They ALL know how to work the system. I worked at the Post Office when I was in college. Those guys knew how to massage every nickel from the system. I imagine the cops are no different.


53 posted on 04/28/2014 10:53:41 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: NEMDF
Normally you have to have a medical panel check out your injuries and the extent of disability, this can take up to several weeks and multiple doctors visits.
Kind of hard to tell the panel that your injuries prevent you from continuing your standard duties and that you are no longer able to work.
Most DEAD people really don't have to much to say.
His work buddies and his wife were trying to scam the system, they were trying to commit what any reasonable person would call blatant FRAUD.
Sorry about the loss of her husband, but they should all be charged, tried, convicted and thrown into prison.
54 posted on 04/28/2014 11:09:29 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Manly Warrior

Plenty of folks take issue with the VA providing treatment for non-service related ailments and injuries too.

Your example may be a double dip but no where near fraudulent. IMHO.


55 posted on 04/28/2014 11:44:39 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: pgyanke
No, genius... sympathy for a dead husband. Milking the system... no. I think I was clear for the literate.

The literate would understand if you said "his" situation. You wrote "their" situation. So the literate would understand you sympathize for the grifting widow too. Putz.

56 posted on 04/28/2014 11:50:53 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
The literate would understand if you said "his" situation. You wrote "their" situation. So the literate would understand you sympathize for the grifting widow too. Putz.

Really? I'm supposed to sympathize with HIS situation? No, I sympathize with his family's situation. They just lost a husband and father. That DOES NOT mean I condone their grifting.

This argument is pointless. If you disagree, say so. Quite trying to pick apart my words when you are clearly not understanding them.

57 posted on 04/28/2014 1:07:48 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke; null and void

They weren’t trying to “milk” the system. They were trying to DEFRAUD the system. The rest of us would get jail time for fraud. But not government workers. And note how they all stick together on this.


58 posted on 04/29/2014 7:21:45 AM PDT by FBD
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To: rjsimmon

You can’t apply for disability insurance coverage for someone else, especially after a fatal injury. These troopers and his wife have committed fraud. They should be charged, and given a trial, not excused.


59 posted on 04/29/2014 7:34:54 AM PDT by FBD
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To: caver
More crooked cops trying to rip off the taxpayers.

These are the guys enforcing laws on the rest of us.

60 posted on 04/29/2014 6:10:49 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (The bill was the subject of a truly awe-inspiring tsunami of poorly informed indignation. Rich Lowry)
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