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To: jacquej
*sigh* Typical. Reply to a fact-based summation by calling another a "jerk". Emotionalism over Factualism -where have I seen that kind of stance before?

I do not state My positions based upon some archaic designations of "I am better than Thee", but upon some real world experience in the electronics industry.

Macophiles are all the same. The equivalent of the French who view anyone who does not fluently speak the true and unaccented lingua franca as truly beneath contempt. "American TOURISTTE -I spit upon you! Patoooie! Patooie!"

I know hardware. I know a bit about coding. I can recognize a good painting from the graffiti sprayed upon walls, and readily acknowledge the skills inherent upon the artists I have known throughout life. That is not the same as giving the same due as those individuals who can understand and work with machine code, as those are two very separate disciplines.

I do not denigrate macs for what capabilities they possess. If I ever wish to create My own version of a Monet, I might look at a mac indeed. If I wish to play a very realistic computer game then I would indeed look at a PS2 or xbox for that.

Merely stating that those platforms are not designed to accommodate some true processing power should not in any way equate to lessening what they are capable of. You can run a business, I suppose, on a mac. After all, they can handle forms and printing things quite well. However, immediately assuming that because they can work smoothly with graphics-based applications means that they can handle anything else there is... is, I hesitate to inform you, not realistic.

They can do pretty pictures and cute fonts well, or so I am told.

For real-world computing tasks... sorry, but other platforms are far better suited.

If you are offended by that for whatever reason(s)...

I have no method I can think of available to Me to convince you that responding emotionally to a task in the real world is not the best way available to accomplish the majority of challenges that come about. For personal interactions, perhaps. For computational requirements, not so much.

Enjoy your mac. And your memories. When I need to design a critical component, your emotionally-laden comments will help not a whit when I need to create something that lives may depend upon.

But a pretty picture might help afterwards, if you like.

As far as "money" is concerned, I have never spoken about it in any of My posts. It seems to be of great concern to you, however, so enjoy by all means. I will not discuss such matters as monetary wealth with you or anyone else in this or any other forum.

As far as being only able to see the "tail of the elephant", I am not the one who descended to anatomical references in order to attempt to denigrate another with such poor attempts of humor in lieu of realistic refutations, and your attempts to mitigate My statements thus far are assuredly not addressing the points I addressed, if not purposefully disingenuous at least in part. Or deflective at the very least, in particular in regards to the points I illustrated in My original post.

I am truly sorry of you are offended by it.. no, actually I think not. If the only response you are willing to offer is that a graphics boxen is no less useful than a machine capable of processing more engineering- and physics- related computations, then nothing I can say will change your emotionally-invested viewpoint.

That does not mean I will ever look for a mac, xbox, or ps2 to accomplish the computations that I am determined to solve at any time. Paint a picture? probably. Design a flyer? OK. Layout a newspaper -sure. Even play a computer game I can certainly see.

Even macs have their useage, after all.

18 posted on 04/12/2014 12:32:59 AM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Utilizer
You are correct about other platforms being better for gaming, but sometimes we need to do real world work.

National Instruments first introduced LabVIEW graphical programming on the Mac in 1986. 25 years later, NI proudly continues to provide Mac users the latest PC-based technology, including full support for NI LabVIEW, more than 80 measurement devices, and driver software for data acquisition and instrument control, for developing custom measurement and automation systems based on Mac OS X.

They work very well with LabView
20 posted on 04/12/2014 12:47:27 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Utilizer
Merely stating that those platforms are not designed to accommodate some true processing power should not in any way equate to lessening what they are capable of. You can run a business, I suppose, on a mac. After all, they can handle forms and printing things quite well. However, immediately assuming that because they can work smoothly with graphics-based applications means that they can handle anything else there is... is, I hesitate to inform you, not realistic.

They can do pretty pictures and cute fonts well, or so I am told.

So you're told? You have the gall to enter an Apple thread to spout MYTHs and tell us the capabilities of our computers based on HEARSAY? Them is some cojones my friend. Frankly, as demonstrated in my above post, you literally don't know what you're talking about.

Several Reviewers recently attempted to build a Windows PC to match the specs and processing power of the top of the line Apple Mac Pro and they literally COULD NOT DO IT. The components were not yet available anywhere near the price Apple was shipping the completed retail, guaranteed Mac Pro for. . . and some components couldn't be had at any price. It's computational power blew every workstation away. A lot of number crunching can be handed off to the GPUs which can turn in 7 Teraflops. . . Twelve core INTEL XEON PROCESSOR. 7- 20GB per second Thunderbolt ports, USB 3, HDMI, All contained in a virtually silent 6" by 9" chassis. Oh! and made in the USA.

Incidentally, the reviewers tried to find a combination in which a Windows PC with close specs was less expensive than the similarly specced (but always more powerful) Mac Pro and the PC was always more expensive.

24 posted on 04/12/2014 1:23:48 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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