Posted on 04/06/2014 5:01:59 PM PDT by Carriage Hill
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4/06/2014, 08:00-11:00pm EST
Sorta like racing,
how fast you wanna go ,,??
how much you wanna Spend??
thanks
Has anyone used a polygonal rifle barrel?
I just bought one today for an AR15 build.
“THE BELGIAN CORPORAL”
By Neal Knox
In the summer of 1955, I was a young Texas National Guard sergeant on active duty at Fort Sill, Oklahoma. A corporal in my squad was a Belgian-American named Charles DeNaer. An old man as far as most of us were concerned, being well over thirty, Charley commanded a certain amount of our respect, for not only was he older than the rest of us, he had lived in Belgium when the Germans rolled across the low countries by-passing the Maginot Line on their way into France. He had seen war.
One soft Oklahoma afternoon, sitting on a bunk in the half-light of an old wooden barracks, he told me his story.
In Charley’s little town in Belgium, there lived an old man, a gunsmith. The old man was friendly with the kids and welcomed them to his shop. He had once been an armorer to the king of Belgium, according to Charley. He told us of the wonderful guns the old man had crafted, using only hand tools. There were double shotguns and fine rifles with beautiful hardwood stocks and gorgeous engraving and inlay work. Charley liked the old man and enjoyed looking at the guns. He often did chores around the shop.
One day the gunsmith sent for Charley. Arriving at the shop, Charley found the old man carefully oiling and wrapping guns in oilcloth and paper. Charley asked what he was doing. The old smith gestured to a piece of paper on the workbench and said that an order had come to him to register all of his guns. He was to list every gun with a description on a piece of paper and then to send the paper to the government. The old man had no intention of complying with the registration law and had summoned Charley to help him bury the guns at a railroad crossing. Charley asked why he didn’t simply comply with the order and keep the guns. The old man, with tears in his eyes, replied to the boy, “If I register them, they will be taken away. “
A year or two later, the blitzkrieg rolled across the Low Countries. One day not long after, the war arrived in Charley’s town. A squad of German SS troops banged on the door of a house that Charley knew well. The family had twin sons about Charley’s age. The twins were his best friends. The officer displayed a paper describing a Luger pistol, a relic of the Great War, and ordered the father to produce it. That old gun had been lost, stolen, or misplaced sometime after it had been registered, the father explained. He did not know where it was.
The officer told the father that he had exactly fifteen minutes to produce the weapon. The family turned their home upside down. No pistol. They returned to the SS officer empty-handed.
The officer gave an order and soldiers herded the family outside while other troops called the entire town out into the square. There on the town square the SS machine-gunned the entire family — father, mother, Charley’s two friends, their older brother and a baby sister.
I will never forget the moment. We were sitting on the bunk on a Saturday afternoon and Charley was crying, huge tears rolling down his cheeks, making silver dollar size splotches on the dusty barracks floor. That was my conversion from a casual gun owner to one who was determined to prevent such a thing from ever happening in America.
Later that summer, when I had returned home I went to the president of the West Texas Sportsman’s Club in Abilene and told him I wanted to be on the legislative committee. He replied that we didn’t have a legislative committee, but that I was now the chairman.
I, who had never given a thought to gun laws, have been eyeball deep in the “gun control” fight ever since.
As the newly-minted Legislative Committee Chairman of the West Texas Sportsman’s club, I set myself to some research. I had never before read the Second Amendment, but now noticed that The American Rifleman published it in its masthead. I was delighted to learn that the Constitution prohibited laws like Belgium’s. There was no battle to fight, I thought. We were covered. I have since learned that the words about a militia and the right of the people to keep and bear, while important, mean as much to a determined enemy as the Maginot line did to Hitler.
Rather than depend on the Second Amendment to protect our gun rights, I’ve learned that we must protect the Second Amendment and the precious rights it recognizes.
I’ve not heard of this in a rifle barrel before.
My Henry ‘Big Boy’ .357mag has a Octagonal barrel:
http://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/big-boy/
Never tried one on an AR-15/M4.
This is the manufacturer.
http://www.blackholeweaponry.com/
The barrel is black melonite Stainless Steel.
It’s more of a Euro thing, and usually German. Hk produced rifles with polygonal barrels in the ‘70s and ‘80s.
That’s a classic. Very nice.
I have used polygonal barrels on many Com Block pistols.
Glock is polygonal.
Never seen a polygonal rifle barrel.
Another classic.
I think I remember LaRue also uses some polygonal barrels on a few rifles.
When I get all the parts assembled and go shoot it, I’ll provide a range report.
The lower is finished. I’m waiting on parts to finish the upper.
That’s a beauty.
Beware of muzzle pressures.
Polygonal seems like it would be lower pressures and is with jacketed rounds.
They do not like lead nose rounds.
Seems like poly would be less resistance, but I aint no physicist.
Poly is way more accurate in my experience.
I bought it for $175 new; still have the original Colt box and hand-written receipt, and a Bianchi Quick-Release shoulder holster.
I ran into a guy at my FFLs on Saturday, who has 21 Pythons in his collection. Wish I’d have bought a couple back in the 60s & 70s when they were “cheap”, compared to the $3,000-3,500 they’re fetching now.
Agreed. Here’s a blurb from the site.
We use 416R stainless steel and our rifling shape is a series of arcs instead of square corners, as in the traditional style of Enfield rifling. This arc shaped rifling has long been held in very high regard for its accuracy, increased velocity, reduced gas cutting and ease of cleaning.
I do not understand why poly cuts with lead nose ammo develop more pressure, but glock says they do, and I have seen them blow.
As to accuracy? Poly cuts rock.
Logic tells you that Poly cuts would have less resistance than land and groove cuts and be less accurate, but that has not been my empirical experience.
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