Runner at first had to have started running before tagging the bag. Since it was a liner that was caught with no ground contact, the runner would have been required to remain on base, tag up, and then run.
The penalty for running before the ball is caught, if discovered, the runner will be called out.
The penalty for running before the ball is caught, if discovered, the runner will be called out.
I'm afraid I don't understand that. It was a low ball, so no one knew it was going to be caught. Of course the runner at first took off. But here's the situation: the ss caught the ball, putting the batter out. But this still left the runner at first on his way to second. According to the rules as I have always understood them, the ss would have had to have physically tagged the runner (since the force play should have been killed) or else thrown to first where the runner would be declared out because he was too far from the base to tag back up. Yet the play was unassisted. There was no throw to first. The shortstop caught the ball (batter is out) and then simply drug his foot across second base, at which point the runner was called out. How was the force play still active after the batter had been called out?
That's not really true. The runner can run all he wants. But he has to either be tagged, or the base where he was when the ball was hit has to be tagged, or he has to leave the field of play to be out.
For example, on a fly ball that is likely to be caught, it is common for a runner to advance half way to the next base (in case the ball is not caught), then if the ball is indeed caught, he returns back to the original base. He is not out.
no way... runners lead off all the time... if the ball is caught, they run back to the base before they are thrown out...
If he did , he is called out by the ump.
Marte was so close to second , probably because he was running on the pitch, that all the SS had to do was tag him instead of throwing to first.
If Marte had a normal lead he might have still got doubled off first if the SS got the ball back to 1B before the he got back, but the unwritten rule for the runner on a line drive is make sure it clears the infield before you go.
I've coached and managed for 15 years, you yell to the kids as a base coach mostly three things.
BACK!
Make sure the line drive clears the infield!
Don't run into the tag! (for the kid on second who takes off for third on a ball hit to the SS with no one on first)
No there is no penalty for running before a ball is caught. That’s called a steal, or a lead off.
Only if the infielder throws the ball to the first baseman before the runner returns to the bag.......According to Zionist, there was no throw to first base......
If I were to say to you : "the base runner is taking a lead off first base" what do you suppose that means?