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A Teacher's Take on Common Core (Vanity)
My seething mind | 31MAR14 | Moi

Posted on 03/31/2014 8:27:20 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady

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To: rlmorel

That was the lamest comparison I have ever heard. Engineering is a very specific field; teaching isn’t. Face it. Conservatives don’t want to do what has to be done. They just want to preach to the choir on the internet. They aren’t ever going to put their money where their mouth is. It’s too haaaaaard. So Common Core is here to stay, just like federal involvement in education is here to stay, just like welfare and social security are here to stay, just like Obama care is here to stay. Because too many conservatives are all mouth and no action.


181 posted on 04/01/2014 6:06:15 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady
That was the lamest comparison I have ever heard. Engineering is a very specific field;teaching isn’t.

No, not at all. I have a civil engineering degree, on of about a half dozen or more engineering degrees typically offered. As a civil, I could have chosen to go into dozens of specialties like sanitary, structural, geotechnical, construction, hydrology, etc., and within each specialty I could have chosen design, oversight, construction, estimating, testing, quality control, etc.

It could easily be argued that teaching is a much more specific degree choice than engineering. What do you do with a teaching degree? Choose the subject and choose the age range, then you teach. That's pretty specific.

182 posted on 04/01/2014 6:11:34 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I miss you, dad.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
Conservatives don’t want to do what has to be done.

I like your argument, but don't forget, many parents are doing what has to be done: they are pulling out and teaching at home. The growth rate of homeschooling is 7% to 15% per year.

183 posted on 04/01/2014 6:21:19 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: Daffynition

184 posted on 04/01/2014 6:54:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Happy April Insanity day! :)


185 posted on 04/01/2014 7:03:47 AM PDT by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: Daffynition

186 posted on 04/01/2014 7:08:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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To: A_perfect_lady
No flame from here, thanks for sharing your experience.

I'd be curious to read from any other Freepers who are math/science teachers their take on Common Core.

187 posted on 04/01/2014 7:14:38 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: GeronL; A_perfect_lady
Does your school have it’s own abortion clinic yet?

My own thoughts that abortion=murder aside, how is this question relevant to a fellow Freeper who was kind & brave enough to share her experience on this topic?

You're demonstrating exactly what she feared: being attacked by the very folks she should find encouragement from, not attacks.

188 posted on 04/01/2014 7:17:43 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Aevery_Freeman
What math classes are you having troubles in? I teach and would be glad to help a fellow FReeper.

Not sure what state you're in, but I have a son having problems with Geometry -- would you be interested in tutoring via Skype? I'd happily pay a fellow Freeper for the assistance. Contact me via Freepmail if interested.

189 posted on 04/01/2014 7:20:16 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: apoxonu

This isn’t new. Sadly. I worked with teens a decade ago, one of them a National Merit Scholar. She left hand written instructions to the alterations lady at a local dress shop to ‘take in at waste’ on a dress. She was a HS senior. What’s worse, when those of us over 40 said something about it, she couldn’t understand all the fuss.


190 posted on 04/01/2014 7:20:56 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: A_perfect_lady

I hire engineers, often entry level. Out of the hundreds of resumes I read (and these are from college grads with good grades), too many have misspelled words and/or incomplete sentences, and these are things they should learn before college! Somehow, our education system is failing them!!!


191 posted on 04/01/2014 8:08:19 AM PDT by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: A_perfect_lady

Well, you come across as an unpleasant, hostile person in your interactions with others, so are you surprised that people interact with you the same way?

I have tried to engage in reasonable discourse to this point, but your calling my comparison “the lamest comparison I have ever heard”, referring to conservatives as you have in many posts has put an end to that. I don’t think it was lame, what I think is that you simply aren’t intelligent enough to make the connection.

Engaging in reasonable discourse is not your strong suit. Funny that you would pick on Ann Coulter in a previous comparison, because you sound to be a lot less “reasonable” than her, which by your standards, says a lot.

A_perfect_lady, indeed.

Bottom line, conservatives are not asking teachers to drop what they are doing and expend their time and effort to convince people to come into THEIR professions to fix what is wrong. Here is a conservative concept for you: How about taking responsibility for your own job?

How about you fix your own problems, or at least expend some energy in that direction before asking people in the health industry or the energy sector to give you a hand?

You posted this thread spoiling for a fight, then you show us all the efforts you have expended on your own, such as starting a website, organization or newsletter towards this end, and actually meeting with young people and providing them with a pathway, then come back and post asking conservatives for “help”. When you back up your big, fat, keyboard with some effort, perhaps people will listen to you.

Otherwise, stuff a sock in it.


192 posted on 04/01/2014 8:30:11 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
That's the famous Schlitzie Surtee of carnie renown.
193 posted on 04/01/2014 9:06:49 AM PDT by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: Daffynition

Trolling for trollops.

194 posted on 04/01/2014 9:09:59 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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To: dr_lew

Yeah, seriously - what’s your prob man? Who would ever be so insane as to expect stuff attributed to people to ever be actually from those people??? That’s insanity right there man. tf


195 posted on 04/01/2014 9:14:51 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: trisham

spoke for yourself well on this one, too.


196 posted on 04/01/2014 9:20:54 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

:)


197 posted on 04/01/2014 9:23:01 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: usconservative

That was a serious question


198 posted on 04/01/2014 9:50:27 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
That was a serious question

No it wasn't, you're one of FR's biggest shit-stirrers. That's exactly what you were trying to do. You failed.

199 posted on 04/01/2014 11:35:23 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

A teacher in LA schools praising Common Core and defending federal control of schools shouldn’t be asked about things involving public schools in LA?


200 posted on 04/01/2014 12:34:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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