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To: rlmorel

That was the lamest comparison I have ever heard. Engineering is a very specific field; teaching isn’t. Face it. Conservatives don’t want to do what has to be done. They just want to preach to the choir on the internet. They aren’t ever going to put their money where their mouth is. It’s too haaaaaard. So Common Core is here to stay, just like federal involvement in education is here to stay, just like welfare and social security are here to stay, just like Obama care is here to stay. Because too many conservatives are all mouth and no action.


181 posted on 04/01/2014 6:06:15 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady
That was the lamest comparison I have ever heard. Engineering is a very specific field;teaching isn’t.

No, not at all. I have a civil engineering degree, on of about a half dozen or more engineering degrees typically offered. As a civil, I could have chosen to go into dozens of specialties like sanitary, structural, geotechnical, construction, hydrology, etc., and within each specialty I could have chosen design, oversight, construction, estimating, testing, quality control, etc.

It could easily be argued that teaching is a much more specific degree choice than engineering. What do you do with a teaching degree? Choose the subject and choose the age range, then you teach. That's pretty specific.

182 posted on 04/01/2014 6:11:34 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I miss you, dad.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
Conservatives don’t want to do what has to be done.

I like your argument, but don't forget, many parents are doing what has to be done: they are pulling out and teaching at home. The growth rate of homeschooling is 7% to 15% per year.

183 posted on 04/01/2014 6:21:19 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: A_perfect_lady

Well, you come across as an unpleasant, hostile person in your interactions with others, so are you surprised that people interact with you the same way?

I have tried to engage in reasonable discourse to this point, but your calling my comparison “the lamest comparison I have ever heard”, referring to conservatives as you have in many posts has put an end to that. I don’t think it was lame, what I think is that you simply aren’t intelligent enough to make the connection.

Engaging in reasonable discourse is not your strong suit. Funny that you would pick on Ann Coulter in a previous comparison, because you sound to be a lot less “reasonable” than her, which by your standards, says a lot.

A_perfect_lady, indeed.

Bottom line, conservatives are not asking teachers to drop what they are doing and expend their time and effort to convince people to come into THEIR professions to fix what is wrong. Here is a conservative concept for you: How about taking responsibility for your own job?

How about you fix your own problems, or at least expend some energy in that direction before asking people in the health industry or the energy sector to give you a hand?

You posted this thread spoiling for a fight, then you show us all the efforts you have expended on your own, such as starting a website, organization or newsletter towards this end, and actually meeting with young people and providing them with a pathway, then come back and post asking conservatives for “help”. When you back up your big, fat, keyboard with some effort, perhaps people will listen to you.

Otherwise, stuff a sock in it.


192 posted on 04/01/2014 8:30:11 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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