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To: GAFreedom
Problem is, all of his data AND his methodology has been publicly available for years. You have to download the raw data and apply his formulas yourself, but that satisfies the scientific definition of "released".

Actually, no, he hasn't. Much of his data is still hidden. That is one of the primary complaints on his work. . . and even his supporters admit it. Mann claims proprietary privilege. . . that cannot survive discovery.

18 posted on 03/23/2014 2:59:24 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker
Actually, no, he hasn't. Much of his data is still hidden. That is one of the primary complaints on his work. . . and even his supporters admit it. Mann claims proprietary privilege. . . that cannot survive discovery.
I'm sorry, friend, but you're wrong there. All of the data used for the hockey stick paper published by Mann in 1998 was publicly available data, which can be downloaded right here. That data is the whole enchilada, straight down to the methods and formulas that he used to get his results. Check it yourself.
20 posted on 03/23/2014 3:13:51 PM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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