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To: Leonard210

Leonard, that’s just ONE example of using threats of suicide for labor advantage. I did NOT scan the.entire raft of articles, but it came out later that one of the issues the workers were upset and protesting about was the cut in available overtime opportunities in response to the company meeting the new guidelines imposed by the Fair Labor Association. . . go find it yourself!!!! Sheesh! There are literally hundreds of stories on these labor suicide threat stories, and some went into detailed in depth analysis of the workers concerns. I read them. . . and if you will NOTICE this was a Microsoft Xbox assembly plant just as I told you! Not an Apple assembly plant! Quit picking at nits. I told you, I am not going to hand you everything I know, or the sources on a silver platter. . . you would STILL find some nit to pick even if I presented it with everything wrapped up with a red satin bow! Find it for yourself, then you’ll know its a fact! I’m not going to spend the time digging it out for you. I did this one to hoist you on your petard because I’m tired of your arrogant attitude. . . and you needed hoisting. I see I wasted my time.


182 posted on 03/22/2014 3:20:07 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

The facts that are available to normal humans on this internet thingy do not back up your assertion that kids were threatening suicide because they wanted more overtime.

You claim Apple does better. I’m with you. Thank you Apple for making sure that Chinese workers have better conditions and wages that those Xbox makers.


183 posted on 03/22/2014 3:33:45 AM PDT by Leonard210 (Viva Perot)
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To: Swordmaker

“I am not going to hand you everything I know, or the sources on a silver platter. . . you would STILL find some nit to pick even if I presented it with everything wrapped up with a red satin bow!”

How absurd. Delusional. You can’t make this stuff up! You’re a scream Swordmaker. No wonder you attract trolls.


184 posted on 03/22/2014 3:38:56 AM PDT by Leonard210 (Viva Perot)
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To: Swordmaker

It’s Command-C and Command-V on a Mac.


185 posted on 03/22/2014 3:44:39 AM PDT by Leonard210 (Viva Perot)
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To: Swordmaker

“After a thorough, independent investigation found significant issues with working conditions at three factories in China operated by Apple’s major supplier Foxconn, the Fair Labor Association secured groundbreaking commitments that will reduce working hours to legal limits while protecting pay, improve health and safety conditions, establish a genuine voice for workers, and will monitor on an ongoing basis to verify compliance. The nearly month-long investigation found excessive overtime and problems with overtime compensation; several health and safety risks; and crucial communication gaps that have led to a widespread sense of unsafe working conditions among workers.”

from Fair Labor Association
http://www.fairlabor.org/blog/entry/fair-labor-association-secures-commitment-limit-workers-hours-protect-pay-apples-largest

Apple is an Affiliate of Fair Labor Association which makes them a Democratic Corporation using the criteria you established earlier.

Um, no mention of kids jumping out windows because they wanted MORE overtime. As expected, this report claims that Apple agreed to “reduce working hours to legal limits while protecting pay, improve health and safety conditions, establish a genuine voice for workers”.

You believe that you read somewhere that the reduction in hours was the cause of threatened suicides. I don’t doubt you, but you’ve bombastically claimed that it was a “fact” easily verified by independent research. Oh, and then you peppered it with insults.


186 posted on 03/22/2014 4:30:59 AM PDT by Leonard210 (Viva Perot)
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To: Swordmaker

“I did this one to hoist you on your petard because I’m tired of your arrogant attitude. . . and you needed hoisting. I see I wasted my time.”

This report by the Fair Labor Association (link below and in previous post) indicates that everything you’ve been saying in this thread is demonstrably false.

There were problems with working hours AND working conditions at the Foxconn plant that makes Apple products.

Why would you be so insulting when you knew that you were so off base?

www.fairlabor.org/blog/entry/fair-labor-association-secures-commitment-limit-workers-hours-protect-pay-apples-largest


187 posted on 03/22/2014 5:21:24 AM PDT by Leonard210 (Viva Perot)
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