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To: Swordmaker

“I suggest you PROVE all of your claims in that paragraph. . . in fact, why not find the proof of your entire post in reference to Apple. . . not just your unsupported opinion.”

I never implied that this was not my unsupported opinion. How ‘bout you explain the term “to stay competitive” because in my 60 years it’s always meant that companies set up shop where they don’t have to deal with unions, high wages, high taxes, and the massive regulations imposed by governmental agencies like, oh, I don’t know, the EPA.

To act like this is not what is meant when you say a company built a factory in China “to stay competitive” is a massive disconnection from reality. Steve’s gone. Shields down.


100 posted on 03/19/2014 9:30:09 PM PDT by Leonard210 (Viva Perot)
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To: Leonard210
I never implied that this was not my unsupported opinion. How ‘bout you explain the term “to stay competitive” because in my 60 years it’s always meant that companies set up shop where they don’t have to deal with unions, high wages, high taxes, and the massive regulations imposed by governmental agencies like, oh, I don’t know, the EPA.

Obfuscating. . . your claim was that Apple PAID for the regulation. . . then outsourced to avoid them. Apple has never had a union issue. They've always paid among the highest wages. Apple could leave high tax California, yet hasn't. Yes, they don't like the idiotic regulations, but did not move the manufacturing to avoid them. Study WHY THEY DID. . . it has a lot more to do with supply chain accessibility. . . and, as I said the ability to stay competitive. Apple no longer sells MacBook Pro at a starting price of $2495. They start at half that. They could not manufacture here, maintain the same quality AND sell at that price. Steve Jobs told that to Obama. . . and, yes, it has a lot to do with the regulatory environment. He also told him that getting a new standard assembly line going in China takes THREE MONTHS. . . compared to more than THREE YEARS here, and no tech company can survive in that environment.

Unfortunately, a LOT of those regulations grew under REPUBLICAN administrations as well as DEMOCRAT administrations. It's the nature of the bureaucratic beast to be productive when you give it the job of producing rules; it's going to be productive: good rules, bad rules, so-so rules, and completely TERRIBLE rules. . . In abundance. . . it's the one thing Government is GOOD at!

101 posted on 03/19/2014 9:57:50 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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