"Shoot "im, Elizabeth!"
Posted on 03/17/2014 1:47:38 PM PDT by ransomnote
PHOENIX (AP) — A dog that mauled a 4-year-old Phoenix boy has received thousands of pleas for mercy through a Facebook campaign ahead of a court hearing to decide his fate.
A municipal court judge could rule at a March 25 hearing on whether Mickey, a pit bull that bit Kevin Vicente in the face, should be euthanized. Kevin received injuries that will require, according to doctors, months and possibly years of reconstructive surgeries.
Since the Feb. 20 attack, Mickey has become the object of a Facebook page that has gotten more than 40,000 likes and an online petition to spare his life.
Supporters say the campaign doesn't mean they value the dog's life above the child's.
"This is not Kevin versus Mickey," said attorney John Schill, who is representing the dog in the court petition. "Having Mickey killed is not going to take away Kevin's pain or injuries. The only thing this is going to do is kill a poor, innocent dog."
Pit bulls are viewed by some as a dangerous breed, a reputation their fans dispute.
SNIP
"I just looked at all this as this could have been my son, and I don't want it to be someone else," Villa said.
Schill said he is working pro bono at the request of The Lexus Project, a nonprofit that collects money to legally defend canines in danger of being euthanized. The organization has set up a trust for Mickey that has received more than $5,600, he said.
Schill said the person watching Kevin while his mother was at work should be held responsible.
"But for adults involved, this never would have happened," Schill said. "They're trying to put all the blame on Mickey."
(Excerpt) Read more at bigstory.ap.org ...
Sorry, but this dog, regardless of breed, is a biter, and it needs to be put down.
"Shoot "im, Elizabeth!"
Good practice - wish more people knew about it. There is a pet-human unspoken contract and some people are willing to let the pitbulls out of the contract and say that only “speshul” people should own them. They just aren’t suitable pets and it’s bizarre that they are kept in captivity and frequently released on the neighborhood and propagandized to the public despite their documented record for killing and maiming.
Next they’ll be calling pitbulls “the Great Uniters” for the way they can quickly bring together disparate portions of a community’s first responders and medical team specialists.
“””...how the dog is treated and what the dog is taught, determines how he acts or reacts.
It’s not the breed, it’s a individual animal....””
Do you say the same on all of those ‘child mauled by poodle’ threads?
Oh wait. There aren’t any. Wonder why that is?
Until you train a Yorkie to hunt pheasant, or Shi Tzu to tree a coon, your comments are meaningless.
Why do search and rescue teams use bloodhounds? Because they are bred for it.
Why do duck hunters use Labrador Retrievers? Because they are bred for it.
The AKC would sure be amazed at your contention that breeding means nothing.
“Not the breeds fault’ they keep saying, again, and again, and again...
That was a good find. I had an ex-GF who watched Cesar M because she owned a German S. Youtube ‘cesar’s worst bites’ and he admits there are lost causes’ of dogs. BTW, by that quote alone, that’s not a pet but a killing machine.
(1) When a Pit Bull "misbehaves" the owner should be arrested and jailed.
(2) The owner and the Pit Bull shall share the same cell.
(3) Neither the pooch nor the owner shall be fed for 90 days.
(4) At the end of that 90 days, whichever of the 2 cellmates survives should be immediately euthanized.
The Pit Bull controversy is very dangerous ground politically. You see, if a particular breed of dog is found to be genetically disposed to attack, it is very likely that some particular breeds of humans might be genetically disposed to anti-societal acts. God knows, we ain't goin' tbere. Can't have that. No Sirree, Bob! As a breed (WTF knows what a "Pit Bull is, anymore?) Pit Bulls are not the most aggressive, not the most likely to bite. However, they have very dangerous equipment and do fearsome damage. Like Malemutes in Alaska, they should never, NEVER be loose. Like Malemutes in Alaska, a loose Pit Bull should be a dead Pit Bull. Period.
It's not the breed, it's a individual animal that did this and "it" should be put down not the breed.
Yup, dog lover, your heart' is in a good place. But, you need a course in insurance underwriting. Before that, that, type "Pit Bull" into the FReep search menu.
"This is not Kevin versus Mickey," said attorney John Schill, who is representing the dog in the court petition. "Having Mickey killed is not going to take away Kevin's pain or injuries. The only thing this is going to do is kill a poor, innocent dog."
SMH.
I’ve watched pit bull attack videos and you can’t miss the fact that they are lovin’ it. The tense, warning or fearful behavior of normal dogs before attacking isn’t there. There is the unprovoked attack with no barking or threat. There is gleeful tail wagging like a cat ripping up a toy for fun.
I’ve posted this video before -its a dog racing through a big intersection and pulling down it’s prey, a child walking with an adult. The tail wagging etc. - it never glanced at the other animals (adults), but went for the one it could easily rip apart. Note that this predator believes it can tolerate any pain or agression adults can provide so it is very single minded in its “playful” mauling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Fh2X7LmuY
Note how many people had to work to stop it and frankly, the dog gave up more quickly than is usual in many of the reports and videos featuring this breed that I’ve watched and read.
Ship the dog and/or owner to the Jakarta meat market.
We will have to agree to disagree on the subject because we will never see eye to eye. But hey, thats OK!, that is what makes America and Free Republic great we can have differences of opinion and still respect each other, well we can but demonrats still don’t know how to play well with others.
And I wouldn’t need a court to help me decide.
It would explain many women’s attitude toward Bill Clinton.
Attack from yesterday....
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/girl-7-mauled-to-death-by-dogs-near-winnipeg-1.2575514
I've tried to point out to folks here numerous times
that the prevalence of particular types of dogs in a given area
is correlated to the number of attacks by those types of dogs.
It does not mean that all of members of these types of dogs are going to attack.
As the article linked reports...
"The head of the Winnipeg Humane Society said Alaskan malamutes are normally friendly dogs, but any large dogs should be under constant supervision when they’re around children.“Big dogs are of concern with small children,” said Bill McDonald. “It doesn’t matter the breed, whether it is an Alaskan malamute or any large breed dog from a collie to a German shepherd.”
McDonald said he’s only heard of children being mauled to death in the province by packs of dogs on remote First Nations communities.
“It’s usually the case of an aboriginal community with pack animals running at large,” said McDonald. “When you’re talking about a domesticated situation, this one is a bit shocking and tragic for the whole family.”
RCMP said there was adult supervision the day the incident happened, but they were gone for only a minute when the attack happened."
I understand it is easier to react to these incidents than it is to thoughtfully respond
but doing so ignores common factors involved, knowledge of which
could prevent attacks, injuries or deaths, regardless of type or breed.
Well actually there aren't, even though many other breeds are guilty of bites and maulings, because they are not sensational, they don't grab peoples attention! And buy the way Yorkies are quite capable of hunting small game like squirrels, being that they are of the terrier breed, you know like PitBulls?, Staffordshire Terriers? And by the way I never said breeding has nothing to do with it! If you had read any of my comments on PitBulls you would have known that I always blame people for intentionally breeding aggressive lines of PitBulls, so yeah it's not the BREED it' is what some people do to some of the breed. But hey what the hell why let reality get in the way of a good hateful rant! Why don't you go ahead and apply your logic to something else, like the problems with some of the yutes we are having and see how that works out, after all there are plenty on this site that consider them to be just animals.
Do you say the same on all of those ‘child mauled by poodle’ threads?
Oh wait. There aren’t any. Wonder why that is?
Pit Bulls do not seem inherently more likely to spontaneously attack. The difference is that they are so much more effective when they do. As such, dilligence needs to be shown when they DO attack. Chihuahuas and toy poodles are amongst the most likely to inappropriately attack...but in the case of Chihuahuas...often no one really cares.
What will these dog supporters say when he mauls someone else, child or adult?
So the U.S. documented killings which reveal that pits kill more people than all other breeds combined, and the report by a trauma physician proving that for his hospital system pitbulls cost more in rehab mauligns than other breeds should be set aside because you found an article about malamutes killing a child? No one has said that no other dog breed is capable of mauling or killing - it’s the overwhelming videotaped and documented (medically, insurance costs, etc.) proof that pitbulls kill too often and maul to an umbelievable degree compared with all other dog breeds...combined.
Pitbulls, part of the Mollosar breeds, are inherently more likely to attack and kill, per statistics and documented proof.Breeds of Dogs Involved in Fatal Human Attacks in the
United States Between 1979 and 1998
A 2000 report issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reviewed a 20-year period to determine the types of dog breeds most responsible for U.S. dog bite fatalities. There are many interesting studies and statistics waiting out there to prove the statistics don’t lie, pit nutters do.
http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics.php
A 2009 report issued by DogsBite.org shows that 19 dog breeds contributed to 88 deaths in a recent 3-year period. Pit bulls accounted for 59% followed by rottweilers with 14%.
Of the 88 fatal dog attacks recorded by DogsBite.org, pit bull type dogs were responsible for 59% (52). This is equivalent to a pit bull killing a U.S. citizen every 21 days during this 3-year period.
The data also shows that pit bulls commit the vast majority of off-property attacks that result in death. Only 18% (16) of the attacks occurred off owner property, yet pit bulls were responsible for 81% (13).
No, documented killings should not be set aside,
they should be studied, analysed, contributing factors extracted
and used to educate people in safe, responsible dog ownership.
Your hysterical hyperbole could well be set aside though.
Perhaps you could read again what I did post
rather than expend energy putting words in my mouth.
“kill too often”
ONE death by any dog is one too many.
“I’m on the fence here regarding putting the dog down.”
I’m not. The animal can’t be trusted. It isn’t a matter of fault, it’s a matter of safety. The animal needs to walk the green mile.
Now some other FReepers are suggesting that the owners be put down. I think that’s rather severe, but I guess you could make the argument.
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