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While the seas rise in the Outer Banks and elsewhere in NC, science treads water
News and Observer ^ | 3/16/14 | Bruce Siceloff

Posted on 03/16/2014 12:37:17 PM PDT by lafroste

RODANTHE — Coastal geologist Stan Riggs, who tracks the ups and downs of North Carolina’s shoreline, needed a bullhorn to make himself heard above a roaring nor’easter that had toyed with the Outer Banks for two days.

He climbed down from the ridge of a DOT-built dune narrowly separating N.C. 12 from the boisterous Atlantic Ocean. A bleached house named WAVE BREAKER seemed to be stilt-walking into the surf – but, really, the island itself was slipping out from under this cottage in a shrinking subdivision called Mirlo Beach.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/03/15/3702235/while-the-seas-rise-science-waits.html#storylink=cpy

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To: Darksheare
Some of what they are counting as “rise” is simple erosion.

Other than tidal effects, especially from storms, the average water level around the planet DOES NOT CHANGE.

It is the ground which moves up and down.

61 posted on 03/16/2014 1:42:36 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: EEGator

Leftists see world as static but reality is constantly trying to show them it isn’t.


62 posted on 03/16/2014 1:44:07 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: lafroste

B-B-But obama was supposed to FIX that, wasn’t he?


63 posted on 03/16/2014 1:46:49 PM PDT by left that other site
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To: Democrat_media; Jack Hydrazine
so where is it coming from if true?

Ice pellets from outside the Earth's atmosphere constantly pelt the Earth. Water vapor is also drawn out of the Earth's atmosphere by the Sun.

Apparently a slightly larger amount of water comes in than goes out.

64 posted on 03/16/2014 1:47:58 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: al baby

“It could also be land levls are sinking”

Subsidence is certainly occurring in the DC area. From time to time you may see wild articles about the sea level rise along parts of the Potomac, but it’s a little of the local rise, and a bunch of the subsiding of the former swamp land in the area.


65 posted on 03/16/2014 1:49:28 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: al baby
It could also be land levls are sinking

The 'land' is constantly rising and falling all over the planet.

In most cases it is very slowly, but the beaches rise and fall with the tides.

66 posted on 03/16/2014 1:50:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I always found this interesting. If you took all the 'known' water on Earth and gathered it together in a ball, here is what it would look like.


67 posted on 03/16/2014 1:53:41 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Democrat_media

There is clearly a long-term sea level rise...though the exact measurements are highly uncertain, and vary according to measurement method.

The main theory on the current (this millenium) rise is that it is primarily from the expansion of water from long-term warming, as opposed to the MUCH larger rises from earlier deglaciation at the end of the ice age.


68 posted on 03/16/2014 1:55:54 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Democrat_media; Jack Hydrazine
where is water coming from if sea levels are rising as ice is increasing?

Well... the overall sea level isn't rising by any significant amount.

As the ice caps increase, they increase pressure on the ground beneath them. That ground is soaked with water. The pressure squeezes out the water and .... things tend to balance out around the planet.

69 posted on 03/16/2014 1:57:39 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Twenty years or so ago, when we were still on Cape Cod, we had a couple of storms that caused quite a bit of damage, including busting a new entrance across from Chatham harbor.

We had a great local resource down there in the Woods Hole Oceanagraphic Institute. I learned a lot from there about sea level rise and dontinental subsidence.

One thing for sure: Cape Cod wasn't there until the last Ice Age dropped its final load of boulders, gravel and sand about 15,000 years ago and I'm willing to bet that it won't be here 15,000 years from now.

I have to take better care of myself though if I'm going to be here to prove it. :O)

70 posted on 03/16/2014 1:58:57 PM PDT by metesky (My investment program is holding steady @ $0.05 cents a can.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

There is more water BENEATH the surface of the Earth, than there is ON the surface.


71 posted on 03/16/2014 1:59:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Sea levels have certainly risen over the thousands of years, even hundreds. It’s not due to an increase in the amount of water...nor is it due to the warming cycle over the last few decades, or century and a half. It’s much longer term, as the oceans are huge.


72 posted on 03/16/2014 2:09:57 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: UCANSEE2

EXACTLY!

The rise in sea level is within the normal cycles the Earth goes through. Once we hit the next ice age, due any time now, sea level will start dropping.

What will Al Gore and his ilk do then?


73 posted on 03/16/2014 2:12:53 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: lafroste
What idiots! One of the lighthouses, south of the Bonner Bridge over Oregon Inlet, had maps of the Outer Banks showing the changes in the shoreline over the past 400 years. There is a good reason that coastline is called the Graveyard of the Atlantic -- shifting sands.

It's all sand. Hurricanes going up the coast will create massive storm surges, first pushing westward, then pulling eastward; and sometimes north or south parallel to the shore. Occasionally, Nor'easters blow in, and push everything into the inland swamps (well, not quite everything). Then four times a day, the tidal flow moves tons of sand between the ocean and the sounds. It never stops. And all the Global Warming and all the Global Cooling doesn't make a bit of difference.

This is the nature of a sandy coastline.

74 posted on 03/16/2014 2:19:12 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Darksheare

I concur.

Global warming rise of the sea being darn near nothing.


75 posted on 03/16/2014 2:24:29 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: lafroste

That entire barrier island has migrated east and west a few inches to a few feet to a few yards a year since people first started noticing such things. Two blocks or so inland from the current beach there are remains of a shipwreck that was well east of the surfline when it sank and broke up.


76 posted on 03/16/2014 2:33:39 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Sea levels have risen at most five inches since the 1970's...

Sea level is the level relative to the adjacent land. How much is more water, and how much is land subsiding?

77 posted on 03/16/2014 2:42:28 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: lafroste

The Outer Banks are barrier islands. The natural tendency of any barrier island chain is to very slowly “walk” to the mainland with constant wave and prevailing wind action. It is natural, nothing more. To conclude that the ocean is rising rather than the barrier eroding is a fool’s errand. My question is are houses being overtaken by the “rising” ocean on the sound side of the Outer Banks? I would very much doubt it./p>


78 posted on 03/16/2014 2:51:58 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: tophat9000

The water is rising just as it should, the Mississippi river dumps about 500 tons of sediment a year into the gulf. Now lets add in all the rivers, streams and beach erosion that takes place all over the world. If I don’t dredge out the ponds on the ranch about every 5 years they hold less and less water.


79 posted on 03/16/2014 3:40:35 PM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

All all this excitement over 5 inches? yeah that sounds like a liberal


80 posted on 03/16/2014 5:26:05 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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