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While the seas rise in the Outer Banks and elsewhere in NC, science treads water
News and Observer ^ | 3/16/14 | Bruce Siceloff

Posted on 03/16/2014 12:37:17 PM PDT by lafroste

RODANTHE — Coastal geologist Stan Riggs, who tracks the ups and downs of North Carolina’s shoreline, needed a bullhorn to make himself heard above a roaring nor’easter that had toyed with the Outer Banks for two days.

He climbed down from the ridge of a DOT-built dune narrowly separating N.C. 12 from the boisterous Atlantic Ocean. A bleached house named WAVE BREAKER seemed to be stilt-walking into the surf – but, really, the island itself was slipping out from under this cottage in a shrinking subdivision called Mirlo Beach.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/03/15/3702235/while-the-seas-rise-science-waits.html#storylink=cpy

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: globaalwarminghoax; globalwarming
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They claim that sea level is rising, but take the pic during a storm. Am I missing something? Both the antarctic and arctic polar ice caps are expanding. Or am I wrong?
1 posted on 03/16/2014 12:37:17 PM PDT by lafroste
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To: lafroste

Here's the pic published with the story.

2 posted on 03/16/2014 12:40:21 PM PDT by lafroste
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To: lafroste

It’s all sand-Here today, gone tomorrow.


3 posted on 03/16/2014 12:40:33 PM PDT by Average Al
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To: lafroste

There are local sea level rises due to the shifting of ocean currents. If you look at a chart of the changes you can see that the rises are not at all even.


4 posted on 03/16/2014 12:41:09 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lafroste

Go to any beach bar in Florida and you’ll likely see photos on the wall of the beach in front of the bar as it was in the ‘20’s, ‘30’s, ‘40’s or ‘50’s. It’s the same distance from the bar that it is now. If the seas were rising, it wouldn’t be just in North Carolina. It’s astonishing these warmers can face the public without shame and blushing.


5 posted on 03/16/2014 12:41:29 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

When junk science taughteth, junk science receiveth.


6 posted on 03/16/2014 12:43:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: lafroste

Some of what they are counting as “rise” is simple erosion.


7 posted on 03/16/2014 12:44:42 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: lafroste

Sea levels supposedly rising are confounded by the fact that some coastlines are sinking, and by erosion of coastlines.

My understanding is that actual sea levels are rising very slowly, as they have for thousands of years.


8 posted on 03/16/2014 12:44:43 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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I want a simple answer. .is water rising or the land sinking? A survey either old school or gps will tell you... you give me that first answer and if the water is rising then we will talk why


9 posted on 03/16/2014 12:46:02 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: lafroste

When I was in school they said that much of the east coast sea floor was subsiding. Kinda like the Mississippi delta.


10 posted on 03/16/2014 12:46:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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South east virginia is sinking... I would google that but aa&t data service is f-ed up in the DC area... No google no gmail, no texting


11 posted on 03/16/2014 12:47:17 PM PDT by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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Some Most of what they are counting as “rise” is simple erosion.

There, fixed it.

12 posted on 03/16/2014 12:48:27 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: lafroste

I used to live here. Years ago you could occasionally ,at an extremely low tide with a washed out beach, see the stumps of trees in the water. Some of the cottages in the Nags Head area were one hundred yards further east than where they are today. That is pretty far out in the ocean. The beach sand has been heading south for a hundred years before the global warming obsession.
I don’t know the answer to this problem but it is not new.


13 posted on 03/16/2014 12:50:58 PM PDT by Howe_D_Dewty
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And some is simple subsistence of land.


14 posted on 03/16/2014 12:51:21 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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If if wasn’t for National Flood Insurance (you know, where the taxpayers pay to remodel someone else’s beach home every couple of years) there would be no houses on the Outer Banks.


15 posted on 03/16/2014 12:51:22 PM PDT by anton
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Mirlo Beach is on one of the thinest parts of Hatteras Island. An inlet has been wanting to break through there for years. In fact, I think one did after a storm not so long ago and DOT filled it in. This has nothing to do with sea level rise. It has to do with changes to the beach up and down the coast. Nor’easters simply want to erode the beach and when that happens on barrier islands, sometimes it connects to the sound. If houses are in the way, too bad.


16 posted on 03/16/2014 12:51:25 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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you’re not wrong sea levels are not rising hence global warming is a hoax

Now there’s more ice at South Pole than ever (So much for global warming thawing Antarctica!)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2216238/Now-theres-ice-South-Pole-So-global-warming-thawing-Antarctica.html

i’m sure the media would have blasted it all over if any beach house or hotel anywhere near the beach would be now under water right? so no sea level rise ever


17 posted on 03/16/2014 12:51:27 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: lafroste

Actually it is rising but only about 0.5mm per year on average.


18 posted on 03/16/2014 12:53:19 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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The beach sand has been heading south for a hundred years before the global warming obsession.

Shocking! When facts conflict with progressive theory, they tend to get lost in the MSM.

19 posted on 03/16/2014 12:54:31 PM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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"Some of what they are counting as “rise” is simple erosion."

IIRC the Outer Banks are the ancient coastline of the area now known as North Carolina.

Which means the Pamlico Sound was once dry land long before modern man trod the shores of North America.

The Outer Banks are mostly made up of sand and as such have been growing and receding for years. The sand is washed away then piled back up then washed away then piled back up. Same thing happens in Virginia Beach to the North. Lately the sand has been washing away and not getting piled back up.

Its not that sea levels are rising there but the currents are just washing away the sand.

20 posted on 03/16/2014 12:54:44 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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