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Records: Man in theater shooting also was texting
Yahoo News ^ | March 13, 2014 | Tamarah Lush/ Associated Press

Posted on 03/13/2014 11:58:40 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

A former police officer accused of killing a man in a movie theater during a dispute over texting had used his own phone to send a message to his son minutes before the shooting, according to documents released Thursday by Florida prosecutors.

Curtis Reeves' son, Matthew Reeves, told detectives that his father texted him at 1:04 p.m. Jan. 13, the documents show....

Matthew Reeves said he had walked into the dark theater while the previews were playing and looked around for his parents. It was then, investigators said, that Reeves shot 43-year-old Chad Oulson....

A judge ruled Wednesday that the documents could be released publicly.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News
KEYWORDS: banglist; corruptcop; curtisreeves; donutwatch; florida; movies; policecorruption; popcorn; reeves; texting
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So Curtis Reeves shoots and kills a man for doing exactly what he had been doing just a few minutes earlier -- texting a family member.
1 posted on 03/13/2014 11:58:40 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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2 posted on 03/13/2014 12:12:12 PM PDT by sport
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To: Uncle Chip
Texting in not what this case is about. It is about a homicide caused by a physical attack. There was no gun drawn or used when anyone was texting. This happened after an angry man lunged at another man, grabbed his popcorn and threw the popcorn container into his face at close quarters. It remains to be seen if self defense or SYG laws will protect the shooter.

Saying he shot him because he was texting while leaving the physical attack out of the picture is creating a lie by omitting the act that triggered the shooting.

3 posted on 03/13/2014 12:19:10 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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"His attorneys say Reeves acted in self-defense. Reeves told police that Oulson hit him in the face, possibly with a cellphone. Other witnesses, including Reeves’ wife, say they never saw Oulson strike Reeves."
4 posted on 03/13/2014 12:20:09 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: Uncle Chip

Curtis always had this thing about being “the only one who should be able to text”’,certain friends revealed in interviews.


5 posted on 03/13/2014 12:21:09 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: oldenuff2no
It remains to be seen if self defense or SYG laws will protect the shooter.

If SYG laws protect a guy who used deadly force after getting popcorn thrown in his face, then all those Trayvon supporters are right about the law needing to be repealed.

However, I have confidence that the jury will send this ex-cop to prison for a long, long time while upholding the integrity of Florida's self-defence and SYG laws.

6 posted on 03/13/2014 12:27:16 PM PDT by Drew68
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“I’m about 2 shoot this guy in front of me 4 texting. LOL! SMH!”


7 posted on 03/13/2014 12:28:13 PM PDT by gdani
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Neither the evidence nor witnesses substantiate your version so far, Perhaps you need to share your knowledge with the defense.
8 posted on 03/13/2014 12:29:16 PM PDT by sport
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To: Uncle Chip

Why I have Netflix ....Movie theaters are trashy these days.


9 posted on 03/13/2014 12:33:44 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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Why I have Netflix ....Movie theaters are trashy these days.

It's not the theaters that are trashy, for the most part, it's the theater goers. Still this is a case of testosterone and stupidity.

10 posted on 03/13/2014 12:40:27 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: oldenuff2no

Saying he shot him because he was texting while leaving the physical attack out of the picture is creating a lie by omitting the act that triggered the shooting.

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Leaving out everything that happened prior to the popcorn being thrown is creating a lie by omitting the acts that triggered the popcorn throwing.

Just as you think the shooting was justified, many, including myself, based on what we have heard of the evidence and seeing the surveillance video, think the popcorn throwing was justified.


11 posted on 03/13/2014 12:51:52 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Drew68

I don’t think SYG is going to cover popcorn attack.


12 posted on 03/13/2014 12:55:23 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: oldenuff2no

So you ‘re implying that Oulson throwing popcorn at Reeves for no discernable reason should give that act the gravity necessary to justify a fatal shooting, and that the texting played no part as an absurd catalyst to the act. of shooting? Mr. Reeves was obviously in a state of mind where ANYTHING could serve as a catalyst.


13 posted on 03/13/2014 1:04:32 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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If SYG laws protect a guy who used deadly force after getting popcorn thrown in his face, then all those Trayvon supporters are right about the law needing to be repealed.

Absolutely.

I get extremely tired of those who have not a clue about what SYG means and does.

It does not say that anybody can use lethal force whenever they claim they felt threatened or in danger.

It says they can do so IF they had a "reasonable fear" of death or severe injury.

I think it highly likely, as you say, that a jury will find popcorn throwing is not a reasonable cause for fear of imminent death or severe injury.

14 posted on 03/13/2014 1:19:12 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: oldenuff2no
Saying he shot him because he was texting while leaving the physical attack out of the picture is creating a lie by omitting the act that triggered the shooting.

According to witnesses the shooter initiated the altercation. So how do you know the victim didn't throw popcorn in self defense?

15 posted on 03/13/2014 1:23:31 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Drew68

Its hard for me to say because I wasn’t in the theater... I don’t know either individual or thier personal character... I am not in the courtroom... I haven’t seen the defense’s evidence or the prosecution’s evidence. So I cannot judge.

SYG and (leathal) self defense are for eminent threats. I am a fairly good-sized healthy 40ish yearold man so popcorn in my face does not constitute a life threatening situation. I could probably take the guy or at least go toe-to-toe.
In that case... I would tell my wife, “here, hold my gun cause me and him fixin to fight”
If I were 80 years old, I know I cannot defend myself against a young buck so I would have to pull a weapon because I would have no other way to defend myself.

So, I don’t know, I wasn’t there so I can’t say what should happen.


16 posted on 03/13/2014 1:51:54 PM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: Dallas59

The last movie theater I entered smelled like Clorox & the floors were extremely sticky. Yuk!


17 posted on 03/13/2014 3:12:28 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: DoodleDawg
There is video. The shooter had words with the guy who got shot. The guy who got shot initiated the second round of words when the shooter came back from talking to the management and getting popcorn. The guy who got shot then stood up, lunged at the shooter, grabbed the popcorn container out of his hands and through it in the shooters face. The shooter instantly drew his handgun and fired.

It is all on video. That is how I know it and I also read the police reports that support what is on the video.

The shooters stance that he felt he was, "about to get the crap beat our of him" is a little thin for me, but and this is a big but, it was the victim who initiated the physical confrontation. Until the guy who got shot got physical it was all a verbal exchange.

That the guy who got shot assaulted the shooter is a fact caught on video. What is not on the video is sound. There were a lot of words exchanged but we do not know what was said in the exchange.

I do not remember the shooter making any calls while he was in his seat and his son does not indicate where his father was when he talked to him.

Because the video does not show the shooter making a call from his seat it would be my opinion that he made the call to his son when he was out of the theater getting the popcorn and talking to management.

The timing on all of this is close. This whole incident took place in a very few minutes.

Again I will say I think the shooters case is thin but it was all not just as you posted. Take a look at the surveillance video for yourself.

18 posted on 03/13/2014 3:13:45 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: Uncle Chip

The victim did not respect the former cop’s authoritah.


19 posted on 03/13/2014 3:13:49 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: dmz
Just as you think the shooting was justified, many, including myself, based on what we have heard of the evidence and seeing the surveillance video, think the popcorn throwing was justified.

First I didn't say it was justified. Those are your words not mine.. Second it is never legally justified to physically assault someone just because you have words with them. That is a crazy statement. I have had words with many people and not a single time did I ever think it was alright or justified to escalate the situation with violence.

20 posted on 03/13/2014 3:19:27 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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