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To: DariusBane

I understand that the c in CPAC is for conservatives, but it is attended by large numbers of Libertarians who dominated that meeting. Not really conservatives. Libertarians tend to be conservative on some issues, certainly not on drugs. My concern is how does one control second hand smoke and protect infants and children? You can’t. I do not favor legalizing pot or anything else.

There is a limited education needed to be a cop. High school diploma and some police academy classes. Certainly does not guarantee intelligence. One would hope for quality candidates with common sense to take the job, but —alas— we take our chances.


28 posted on 03/08/2014 7:39:32 AM PST by tioga
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To: tioga

Look I think the problem that people have with the WOD is not pot or no pot. I think the problem is government seizures of property without cause or warrant. No knock warrants executed by the fistful. The 4th Amendment, the 5th Amendment ignored and gamed.

That is the problem. Not pot. The question is, is the government by their actions making things better or worst. That is the fundamental question, not second hand contact high questions.

I and many others avoid pot not because it is against the law, but because it is stupid. For the same reason I don’t drink a fifth of vodka every night. Is it against the law to drink a fifth of vodka every night? No. But I don’t do it because I don’t want to destroy my liver. Do some people drink a fifth of vodka every night? Probably. Again the question is, is the government making the situation better or worst? Do people see more destruction of lives and lively hood from the actions of the government or from pot consumption. I think right now the government is causing more disruption and destruction trying to stop a problem than the problem itself could ever create. That is the point.

Some idiot low I.Q. cop beating up an old man at a nursing home is not terribly uncommon. Nor is an instance of cops not providing medical attention and killing an injured driver: http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2010/03/clackamas_county_settles_for_1.html

This case in Clackamas County is once again evidence of cops not asking a simple question, am I making the situation better or worst?

This is a matter of Police Institutional standards, expectations and training methods. If cops don’t reform they risk wide spread deadly violence against them by the lawless who will do the violence, and apathy from the law abiding who will let it happen.

The practices and expectations of LEO in this country are disgraceful. The whole rotten mess needs to be re-tooled. It can be done, but it must be done by LEO who run the institutions, develop standards and implement training.


30 posted on 03/08/2014 7:58:15 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: tioga
There is a limited education needed to be a cop

And limited intelligence as well?
Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops


39 posted on 03/08/2014 10:59:30 AM PST by caveat emptor (!)
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