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To: rolling_stone
"could have had a underwater Sea Doo propulsion device."

It's true, but I have a lot of underwater experience below, from, between and to rubber boats, helos, subs, mini-subs etc. The degree of complexity of having a waiting diver or divers puts this "frogman assassin" theory into the realm of Hollywood, where we see Tom Cruise etc parachute into the water and swim to a waiting submarine all the time like it's some simple task. IT IS NOT!!!!!

If you want to kill Fuddy, you need the pilot #1 to ditch the plane in a safe, calm, flat area. He MUST be the critical part of the plan for it to work. (Hitting an open ocean swell the wrong way would be like flying into a hill.)

If you need an assassin besides the pilot, then he is going to be on the plane, waiting to cause Fuddy's heart attack with an aerosol spray, or by drowning her.

379 posted on 02/23/2014 6:01:19 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

What if it’s not an assassination?

The only other Cessna 208B engine failure in the past 30-some years that the NTSB has investigated was within 50 days and 25 miles of this one, and it - like this one - was “investigated” so poorly by the NTSB that the plane was left unattended for the evidence to be contaminated. When Makani Kai pulled this plane out of the water 6 days after the crash it was in pieces, even though it had gone into the water nearly intact.

The pilot of the earlier Mokulele Air crash was loudly praised but never named, which is also interesting because Clyde Kawasaki (the pilot in this crash) has never been listed as a Makani Kai pilot on either of their web pilot listings, even though it’s claimed he’s flown for them for 2 years and their pilot list was updated AT LEAST twice in the past year.

Of course, it may just be coincidence that the MCFD person who reported to the media that there was one death 20 minutes before the USCG PO in charge knew how many were even retrieved..... was Richard KAWASAKI, the first person on scene to the area.

There are way too many discrepancies and coincidences in the story for me to mention here. The two images I’ve asked questions about show totally different possible apparrel and gear so I doubt that any of these people are “official” people.

As to how somebody could get there, the Cessna 208b is supposed to hold 14 passengers. The cargo area was free, and Puentes (who had 2 GoPro cameras and water-appropriate mouthpiece with him at the time and was filming the passengers BEFORE the engine failure happened) put his hand over the camera (or in some other way caused a dark screen) which allowed a place for the video to cut off there and resume after the footage where the “extras” exited the plane ahead of the other passengers was cut out.

In later images you will see this is exactly what ABC did with Puentes’ video - used a dark underwater scene to cut away from something they didn’t want us to see and have the video come back with the camera in a different location.

I commented elsewhere also that the ABC announcer said the passengers were all out in under 2 minutes, according to the time counter on the video. But the slowest part of the plane’s sinking would have been when the mostly-empty fuel tanks were keeping the plane afloat because of the air in them. Only as the air was displaced by water would they become heavy and make the plane sink, tipping the nose down first. According to the video the water was already up to the level of the cabin floor by the time the door was opened. That timeframe just doesn’t work. Some time was presumably edited out of the CABIN portion of that video.


394 posted on 02/23/2014 10:18:26 AM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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