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Why Sochi is Not Lake Placid
http://www.breitbart.com ^ | Februry 18, 2014 | Craig Shirley

Posted on 02/18/2014 4:42:41 PM PST by NKP_Vet

Try as they might, some commentators during the U.S.-Russian hockey game could not muster much credible moral argument for making a comparison between Sochi of 2014 and Lake Placid of 1980.

Of course, we all wanted the US team to win this time, just like in 1980. But as part of a larger world morality play, it pales to near nothingness in comparison. President Obama immediately moved to seize a political advantage, sending out a tweet claiming to “never stop believing in miracles.” The president’s grasp of history is self-evidently weak and self-serving.

Back then, the joy of the American win was palpable. Strangers hugged in the streets, high-fived in the bars, screamed on the sidewalks. Toasts were made all over the 50 states. Everybody in America felt it and felt a part of it.

The galaxy-stunning win by the young American upstarts back in 1980 over the older, more experienced, and more intimidating Russian hockey team was the most compelling upset in the history of the wide world of sports--an American “Miracle on Ice” viewed as a crack in the ice of the Cold War, and in our favor for the first time in years.

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TOPICS: History; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: hockey; lakeplacid; olympics; sochi
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To: SamAdams76
It was a drab existence for many, slogging off to work and coming home to a dinner of soggy meatloaf with a black and white TV showing 3 channels of utter dreck. No Internet, no media on demand, no trendy casual eating restaurants to go to. Nothing like that at all. Lowenbrau was as fancy as you got for beer (with a slight argument for Heineken). People would have parties at their house and have jello with lettuce in it and a "cocktail" would be jug wine mixed with Kool-Aid. A Peter Frampton album would be playing on the "hi-fi".

Wiping tears from my eyes, Sam... wiping tears from eyes.

21 posted on 02/18/2014 6:08:28 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: MeganC

I was born in 1990 and have only seen bits and pieces of this game on TV.


Dont feel bad...only those in the arena that night (about 8,000) saw the game live....it was shown on ABC (who had rights to those games) a few hours later on tape. No one saw it televised live. We all saw a tape of game


22 posted on 02/18/2014 6:35:38 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Diversity is just racism against white folks)
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To: SamAdams76
Great post, but I don't know where you got the idea that some of those kids weren't out of high school. Only two of them -- defenseman Mike Ramsey and center Neal Broten -- were younger than 20 years old, and they both played previously for Herb Brooks at the University of Minnesota.

Some of those players were so good in college that Brooks deliberately set up their training and exhibition schedule so they'd be playing in Europe in the fall of 1979. This was done to ensure that they'd be out of the spotlight when NHL teams were in training camp, since many of these players had previously been drafted by NHL teams and Brooks didn't want them lured away from the Olympics by NHL scouts.

Joey Mullen was the one player Brooks wanted who didn't play on the team. I believe his father was sick at the time and the family needed money to pay medical bills, so he signed with the St. Louis Blues in 1979.

23 posted on 02/18/2014 6:56:44 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Alberta's Child
Exactly. More reasons why it was a great movie.

I still cannot believe it has been 34 years.
24 posted on 02/18/2014 6:57:33 PM PST by Dan in Wichita
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To: SamAdams76

Don’t forget the peanut farmer was in the White House, saying that America would never be great again. The miracle on ice proved him wrong, and I think helped Ronald Reagan in highlighting the potential of Americans. I was 14 at the time and we were at the Illinois state swimming championship. When the score was announced the entire crowd stood up and sang the Star Spangled Banner. I will never forget that feeling, and we rushed home to watch the game on tape delay. On Sunday we watched the gold medal game live. It really drove home what it meant to be an American, and to show that we didn’t have to put up with a putz like Carter in office.


25 posted on 02/18/2014 7:05:41 PM PST by sharkhawk (Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Great link there! New York State is a Marxist rat-hole, but it’s hard not to fall in love with a place like that.


26 posted on 02/18/2014 7:09:18 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: sharkhawk
A funny thing about international hockey is that a lot of the players know each other well. The nationalism is usually confined to the spectators, and doesn't play much of a role on the ice.

One of the books I read on this subject described how American goalie Jim Craig and Soviet star Sergei Makarov spent a lot of their free time in Lake Placid at the athlete's village playing an arcade game (Centipede, I believe) against each other. They both saw it as a way to sharpen hand-eye coordination, and they were thrilled to find that they could play it free for hours on end without dropping quarters into it. LOL.

27 posted on 02/18/2014 7:15:49 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: NKP_Vet
As a hockey fan, it's sometimes grating to see abject ignorance about a second-tier sport show up even in a respectable media forum.

One player who makes millions playing for the Washington Capitals of the NHL, Alexander Ovechkin, chose to play for Mother Russia, not the country that vastly enriched him.

Alex Ovechkin didn't have a choice in the matter. His only option was to play for Russia, or not play at all. The International Ice Hockey Federation (IIHF) has very strict rules about a player's eligibility for a national team, and the first condition of eligibility is that a player must be a citizen of the country he represents in an international tournament. And even if Ovechkin became a U.S. citizen, he would not be eligible to compete in international play for the U.S. without first going through a formal transfer process that could take as long as four years (the IIHF does this to discourage players from competing for more than one country during their careers).

28 posted on 02/18/2014 7:38:46 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: NKP_Vet

I watched the 1980 game in the lobby of my college dorm. The place was packed and erupted into mayhem when America won the game.

I don’t remember much of the night after that.


29 posted on 02/18/2014 7:45:05 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: NKP_Vet

Oh you mean there is an Olympics taking place???

Thank you for your service. I am glad you got to be in Lake Placid. That was a wonderful time


30 posted on 02/18/2014 7:59:55 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Alberta's Child

“New York State is a Marxist rat-hole, but it’s hard not to fall in love with a place like that”

Not upstate. Pretty conservative and usually vote for whatever republican is running.


31 posted on 02/18/2014 9:10:06 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("I never went to college, I was too busy learning stuff!" ~ Ted Nugent)
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To: NKP_Vet

One of the Russian players plays for the Stars. How can you muster up a lot of animosity for a team that way?

Back then the Olympics were the only time you got to see the Russians play.


32 posted on 02/18/2014 9:13:58 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: SamAdams76

As I recall, the game wasn’t even broadcast live.......but I clearly remember Jim McKay teeing it up, he couldn’t contain his excitement, even though the game hadn’t been shown yet....But I remember there were rumblings even before that indeed the US had won, even though we couldn’t be completely sure until the game was broadcast.

Of course these days, it would be impossible to keep the result under wraps, like that.


33 posted on 02/18/2014 9:18:50 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Al Michaels quote for the ages “Do you believe in miracles”!


34 posted on 02/18/2014 9:22:57 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("I never went to college, I was too busy learning stuff!" ~ Ted Nugent)
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To: Varda

I agree about men’s hockey it is just pro teams playing

But women’s hockey is still amateur and is very fun to watch. This Thur night USA plays Canada for the gold. This will be a game for the ages.


35 posted on 02/19/2014 3:12:43 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

I’d rather watch pros. These men are the best in the world and the level of play is very high. The fact that they make their living at this sport does nothing to lessen the commitment and effort that they give. It’s the best in the world versus the best in the world. And there are several countries which have a shot at winning.

I find women’s hockey hard to watch (but I do watch sometimes). They may give max effort but there is a general low level of play. The fact that the only competitive teams (USA-Canada) have such bad behavior on and off the ice doesn’t help. I expect Canada will win like usual.


36 posted on 02/19/2014 4:47:06 AM PST by Varda (DVRs are wonderful things)
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To: SkyPilot

Bump what you said.


37 posted on 02/19/2014 9:09:30 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Varda

Don’t know how long since you watched, but the level of play between women’s teams has improved dramatically, particularly in the Baltic and Nordic countries.

USA/Canada will be a humdinger of a match and my money is on the USA; much faster and better play makers. The Canadians are heavier and more physical, but that won’t make the difference IMO.


38 posted on 02/19/2014 11:52:28 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: NKP_Vet

It was the most amazing win ever.


39 posted on 02/19/2014 6:21:01 PM PST by Pelham (If you donÂ’t deport itÂ’s amnesty by default.)
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To: NKP_Vet

bttt


40 posted on 02/27/2024 2:20:07 AM PST by linMcHlp
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