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1 posted on 02/13/2014 12:56:58 PM PST by crazylibertarian
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If the liberals felt about gun rights the way they do abortion or obamacare, we’d be required to pay for other people’s guns whenever they wanted one, and we’d have to buy one ourselves or pay a fine (err tax).


2 posted on 02/13/2014 1:02:29 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Not a single one of the Bill of Rights refers to a group right. They are all rights of the individual.


3 posted on 02/13/2014 1:05:09 PM PST by mkmensinger
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Everyone is part of the militia whether you join one or not. It has been on the law books for well over two hundred years and was slightly modified to split the difference between the organized militia (National Guard) and the unorganized militia (everyone else).

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311

10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.


4 posted on 02/13/2014 1:07:18 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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Even so, if in fact it did mean militia, militia’s are not traditionally the equivalent of the countries army, standing or otherwise.

If true, we could actually form civilian militias and actually push the agenda towards allowing more powerful weapons to actually be a viable militia.

But I like the current interpretation better.


5 posted on 02/13/2014 1:09:04 PM PST by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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A logically parallel statement to the Second Amendment would be:

A well regulated Militia Internet, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms Modems, shall not be infringed.

6 posted on 02/13/2014 1:10:17 PM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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The argument you are making was the main thrust of the Heller decision. The first phrase (why they thought it was a good idea) CANNOT modify the protection laid out in the second phrase. It is simply no logical that it would.


12 posted on 02/13/2014 1:24:04 PM PST by thorvaldr
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I support 2A, but I think they could have worded it better.

The commas seem to be placed at random.


18 posted on 02/13/2014 1:32:45 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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Progressivism is based on a circular argument.

Progress is defined as what progressives work for, and progressives as those who work for progress.

Always left out of the discussion is what direction society should move towards for it to be progress.


20 posted on 02/13/2014 1:36:47 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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If y’all want to read a really good book about this subject and it’s history, check out, “That Every Man Be Armed,” by Stephen P. Halbrook. I listen to the audiobook when I’m at work. Excellent stuff.


24 posted on 02/13/2014 2:40:58 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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bkmk


26 posted on 02/13/2014 3:20:46 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Since all males at the age of 18 are required to register for selective service, I’m thinking that pretty much constitutes a militia.


28 posted on 02/13/2014 10:24:08 PM PST by mikefive (RLTW)
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