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Bond Hearing for Theatre Shooting Case LIVE
My Fox Tampa Bay ^ | February 7, 2014 | My Fox Tampa Bay

Posted on 02/07/2014 7:21:32 AM PST by Uncle Chip

[Live Bond Hearing -- continuation from Wednesday]

(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxtampabay.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: armchairquarterbacks; barkingmoonbats; curtisreeves; donutwatch; floriduh; nancygracegroupies; oulson; trialbymedia
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To: meatloaf

Would than not require the shooter to show his ticket again to get back in???

That means witnesses and well as possible video.. But that is not the issue is it meatloaf???

It will revealed, admitted and or proved the former cop shooter was already packing a weapon in the movie theater.

Ya think he needed to leave the theater to ensure his weapon was ready for a very fast grab and shoot???

You don’t think it’s possible the shooter could do this after leaving his seat, being pissed off and went to complain to management and then returned to his seat totally ready????


121 posted on 02/08/2014 11:03:30 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: meatloaf

You don’t know that either, and in fact you don’t know when he left is seat, pissed off to complain to management, if he returned with his weapon totally ready for easy access.

In fact, did you not state it was so fast in fact, witnesses said it happened in the “Blink of an eye????

Would this not possibly establish it was possible the shooter already readied the weapon for a quick grab and shoot???


122 posted on 02/08/2014 11:06:00 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: meatloaf

In fact, you seem inordinately eager to defend someone, who was already pissed off, who appears to have shot to death an unarmed individual.


123 posted on 02/08/2014 11:10:54 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Uncle Chip

>> “This is very unusual for a bond hearing.” <<

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Very unusual defendant!

He is the epitome of the reasons not to grant a defendant bail.
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124 posted on 02/08/2014 11:13:56 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: dragnet2

I’m not willing to make a rush to judgement. I’ve posted several times there’s something more than meets the eye here. Both men have histories that don’t explain what happened.

I’m going with innocent until proven guilty. I did the same with Zimmerman. I will continue to defend, as you term it, Reeves until I’m convinced of his guilt.


125 posted on 02/08/2014 11:18:40 AM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: meatloaf

>> “That’s why the retired cop didn’t do a show and tell with the gun. He was on automatic.” <<

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Seemingly a good reason to prohibit police from possessing weapons when off duty.
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126 posted on 02/08/2014 11:22:46 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: dragnet2

You don’t know that either, and in fact you don’t know when he left is seat, pissed off to complain to management, if he returned with his weapon totally ready for easy access.

That would have had to happen after he sat down. None of the witnesses said he got the gun out.

In fact, did you not state it was so fast in fact, witnesses said it happened in the “Blink of an eye????

The actual drawing and firing did happen that fast.

Would this not possibly establish it was possible the shooter already readied the weapon for a quick grab and shoot???

Maybe, maybe not. For someone such as a LEO or another who practices self defense, I’m not surprised. If Reeves had been wearing tight fitting jeans I might have been more impressed with the speed if the gun was in his pocket. A lot depends on how and where he carried.

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127 posted on 02/08/2014 11:24:45 AM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: meatloaf
You don’t know that either, and in fact you don’t know when he left is seat, pissed off to complain to management, if he returned with his weapon totally ready for easy access.

That would have had to happen after he sat down.

No it wouldn't.

None of the witnesses said he got the gun out.

BS, that is not what the witnesses stated.

128 posted on 02/08/2014 11:34:49 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: editor-surveyor

That would penalize everyone who trains to defend themselves. Self protection is a basic right.


129 posted on 02/08/2014 11:36:40 AM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: dragnet2

Obviously I missed the witness that said Reeves got the gun out when he sat down before Reeves hit him with the popcorn. Got a link?


130 posted on 02/08/2014 11:38:23 AM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: meatloaf

If he returned to his seat, after already being pissed off, could he have easily readied the gun, had it in his lap, under his arm, or had his hand on it in his pocket, ready for any excuse/reason to use it?

I would guess this is in fact what occurred and will bet a cup of coffee the jury agrees.


131 posted on 02/08/2014 11:39:34 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: meatloaf
None of the witnesses said he got the gun out.

BS, that is not what the witnesses stated.

Obviously I missed the witness that said Reeves got the gun out when he sat down before Reeves hit him with the popcorn. Got a link?

If witness did not happen to see something before it happened, in a low light theather, and the shooter had it ready concealed in his lap, under his arm, OR had his hand on the gun in his pocket, does this mean it never occurred ?????

132 posted on 02/08/2014 11:43:09 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Reeves even got angry with his own wife, and told her: “You shut your fu#king mouth, and don’t say another word.” (According to sheriff’s deputy testimony.)


133 posted on 02/08/2014 11:44:48 AM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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To: meatloaf

Answer the questions.


134 posted on 02/08/2014 11:45:36 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: FBD

Yep...and Mr. meatloaf is being very evasive here. I expect the defense will be the same way...But won’t do them any good.


135 posted on 02/08/2014 11:46:43 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

He could have done what you said. You’re still guessing without a witness stating that’s what they saw. Neither Mrs. Oulson or Mrs. Reeves saw that. Others have said Mr. Reeves had the popcorn and Reeves knocked out of his hand. Another said Reeves had his own phone out. How many hands does Reeves have.

There are statements out there that are mutually exclusive. I thought the retired Air Force lt. colonel was credible, but even he seemed confused. The prosecutor made a big deal out of how the witness was a trained observer who was situationally aware. The tape clearly showed Oulson reaching toward Reeves. The witness said Oulson did not do that. ????


136 posted on 02/08/2014 11:50:47 AM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: meatloaf

Protecting one’s self does not extend to a total lack of analytical response.

Police are paid fairly high salaries for a supposed ability to act analytically.
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137 posted on 02/08/2014 11:54:15 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: meatloaf; NautiNurse; dragnet2

Perhaps you and NautiNurse can tell us just what this single freeze frame is supposed to show that we don’t already know from witness testimony:

Here’s the whole video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27d9hCjsUE&feature=youtube_gdata_player


138 posted on 02/08/2014 11:55:39 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: meatloaf
He could have done what you said.

Wow...So we agree.

You’re still guessing without a witness stating that’s what they saw.

Come on Mr. loaf...Did you expect the already pissed off former cop to return to his seat, flash his gun and announce:

"If that SOB disrespects me again and I am ready to shoot the SOB!"

139 posted on 02/08/2014 11:57:20 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Uncle Chip

If I can be honest, the actions of this former cop captain reflects really bad on every single CW holder in the country...

Anyone with level of anger issues or authority issues this guy had, should never have been assigned any authority over anyone.


140 posted on 02/08/2014 12:04:53 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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