http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3119061/posts?page=70
Posted on 02/07/2014 7:21:32 AM PST by Uncle Chip
[Live Bond Hearing -- continuation from Wednesday]
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Taking someone’s life intentionally in a fit of anger is a criterion of murder in the second degree. Shooting someone is an indication that one intends to take their life.
When the guy’s own wife isn’t supporting his self defense claim, you know it’s not going to fly with the jury. Or most of us would hope not. I’ve sensed a gradual shifting of your position from your original post. 3 people testified that Reeves said something to the effect of “that will teach you to throw popcorn at me.” That’s not “muscle memory”.
The hurdle for second degree murder in Florida is depravity of mind:
Depravity of mind refers to the state of mind which is contrary to justice, honesty or morality. Depravity of mind is a condition where there is a deviation or departure from the ordinary standards of honest, good morals, justice, or ethics as to be shocking to the moral sense of the society. Depravity of mind can also be described as an act of baseness, vileness, or depravity in the private and social duties which a person owes to another, or to a community.
http://definitions.uslegal.com/d/depravity-of-mind/
Let me guess:
You have shrines in your house to Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung.
How do we know Reeves’ anger caused the shooting? The nurse had no idea what was going on before and during the drawing and firing of the gun. I realize I’m splitting hairs here. I’ve been trying to understand a lot of illogical behavior through the years. Knowing how habits result and how they’re stored in the non-thinking part of the brain shed new light on previous experiences.
The anger might have made it more likely to shoot. Reeves doesn’t have a history of losing his temper during his career. Was anger the only reason he shot Oulson? That is what I’m questioning.
Wait a minute here meatloaf.
You say the murder happened within a blink of an eye?
But the incident was much longer was it not?
My point is, wasn't Reeves already in a heated argument with the victim and then went to go complain to management minutes prior to the shooting? Did Reeves load up or possibly ready his weapon for a quick grab for round 2 ?
How come you evaded all this except to say it appeared the shooter did not seem angry with someone who was not even involved in the altercation?
After the fact her statement seems right on target. Taking Reeves’ two reported statements together doesn’t make sense. At first he essentially says “gotcha”, then rhetorically asks aloud “What have I done?”
I don’t have an issue admitting I’m wrong when I’m proven wrong. The so-called muscle memory has nothing to do with muscles other than the basal ganglia can be habituated to move muscles without conscious thought. That is the key to my question. Did Reeves consciously think, “I going to shoot.” or did he draw and fire without thought in reaction to what the brain perceived as a threat?
Was his mind depraved before and during the shooting? After the fact isn’t necessarily proof.
One thing that came out in Reeves’ daughter’s testimony was that she was surprised to hear that he was carrying a 38 caliber that day since he usually carried a 22.
That day for the show he upped the caliber.
And per her he was a CCW holder.
The witnesses that saw the shot are uniform in saying everything happened either very, very fast or in the blink of an eye. Video might show whether Reeves left the theater and then returned. I would be surprised if he went to the car to get the gun. That would change everything from my POV.
If you watch the video and listen to the testimony of the retired air force officer everything did happen very fast after Reeves returned to his seat. You can see that in the video. Oulson’s wife never had the time to put her hand on her husband’s chest to protect him. AFAIK, she hasn’t said she saw the gun before it was fired.
The buildup to the incident did take longer. Reeves was somewhere trying to talk to a manager when the retired Air Force officer and his wife took their seats.
And in fact it's my position the former cop shooter likely had readied his weapon for a quick grab and shoot when after the first altercation returned to his seat after attempting to complain to management. This is also based on the video which show an old man drawing and shooting nearly immediately after the pop corn was tossed.
Ya see, no one has that fast of response, that quick of a draw unless they had ever intention of drawing prior to the event and were just waiting for an excuse.
BTW, no sale on how well the old man was trained...Watch the video..The weapon was likly in his lap or at least his hand was on the weapon ready to shoot...
My opinion is you have a former cop captain who was suffers from heavy badge syndrome and was used to people bending and jumping to his every whim, and one who was not going to be disrespected by anyone for any reason....
I never suggest that in my post to you. You're clearly being evasive again.
Would than not require the shooter to show his ticket again to get back in? That means witnesses and well as possible video.. But that is not the issue is it meatloaf? It will revealed, admitted and or proved the former cop shooter was already packing a weapon in the movie theater.
Ya think he needed to leave the theater to ensure his weapon was ready for a very fast grab and shoot?
You don't think it's possible the shooter could do this after leaving his seat, being pissed off and went to complain to management and then returned to his seat totally ready?
Come on.
Reeves has a CCW. I have no doubt as a retired cop that he carried a firearm into the theater when he first went in. He was ready every time he left home. The gun didn’t magically appear in the man’s pocket. Nor did he borrow it from someone when he tried to talk to a manager.
Then why bring up the diversion about it being unlikely he left the theater to get his weapon...I never suggested that.
He was ready every time he left home.
You don't know that either, and in fact you don't know when he left is seat, pissed off to complain to management, if he returned with his weapon totally ready for easy access.
In fact, did you not state it was so fast in fact, witnesses said it happened in the "Blink of an eye?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3119061/posts?page=70
You respond to questions with a blurry video frame by a someone who added their own graphics?
WTF??
Why are you evading the questions?
What has that frame have to do with post 110, 112 and 115?
Why did you evade those questions?
What am I evading?
What were you evading?
There were multiple questions to you in 110, 112 and 114.
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