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Ontario rights chief defends man’s ‘right’ to be nude in women’s change rooms
life site news ^ | Thaddeus Baklinski

Posted on 02/01/2014 10:41:50 PM PST by Morgana

TORONTO, January 31, 2014 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The head of Ontario’s human rights commission is defending the right of ‘transgendered’ men to use women’s changing rooms in response to a woman’s complaint that she was ogled by a naked man who was sexually aroused at her local Y.

In a letter to a Toronto Star ethics columnist earlier this month the woman complained that the man, who claimed to be transgendered, asked her uncomfortable questions, including if she "came here often."

"I understand that gender is no longer judged solely by genitalia," the woman wrote to the Star, "but does a brief contact with the duty manager mean that men not yet committed to gender reassignment are free to disrobe anywhere they choose?"

In a letter to the editor January 13th, OHRC Chief Commissioner Barbara Hall insisted “unwanted sexual behaviour is never acceptable,” but also charged that the woman’s complaint “advance[s] some common misinformation that has caused serious harm to the transgender community.”

Hall said there is no documented case of a heterosexual man gaining access to a women's changeroom by "posing as transgender," but charged rather that "a stereotype of connecting transgender people with wrongdoing and being sexual predators" has put "transgender persons more at risk than anyone else of being harassed, abused, assaulted, or even killed."

Hall also dismissed continued calls to the OHRC "to segrate (sic) transgender people into separate bathroom and changing spaces, for the good of the larger majority," as nothing more than a "practice based on fear and stereotypes.”

She said such proposals are “exactly opposite the vision of Ontario’s Human Rights Code, which is to build an Ontario based on inclusion, where everyone feels a part of and is able to contribute to the community."

"The Ontario Human Rights Code exists to benefit all Ontarians," Hall concluded, "including transgender people, who often have a daily battle to overcome the barriers that misunderstanding, fear and intolerance cause."

The Star's columnist Ken Gallinger suggested that the man's behaviour in the women's change room was not only disrespectful but probably illegal.

"I don’t know, obviously, whether the person you encountered was truly trans, or merely a poseur getting his kicks," Gallinger wrote.

"The physical evidence makes me suspect the latter," he stated.

"In any event, this person’s behaviour was unacceptable and, arguably, illegal. I urge you to report her (him?) to the management. People like this can’t be skulking around locker rooms, not because of gender issues, but because they have no respect for boundaries — and could be dangerous. Be very clear about the nature of your fears; you were the victim of an inappropriate sexual advance."

Christina Blizzard of the Sun News Network was more strident in her remarks on Hall's response to the woman's story, noting the hypocrisy the OHRC is displaying.

"We have women-only swim times at an aquatic centre in Regent Park in order to accommodate certain religious and cultural minorities for whom communal bathing is a no-no. And the OHRC supports that," Blizzard said in a "Straight Talk" video segment titled "Political correctness shouldn't trump common sense."

"It begs the question: If a transgendered woman with a penis busts a female Islamic swim class in downtown Toronto, whose human rights take precedence?”

"It was a question I wanted to ask Hall," Blizzard said. "Sadly, though, she did not want to be interviewed for my column Tuesday. A call to her office elicited the response that Hall said everything she wanted to in her letter."

Contact info:

Barbara Hall, Chief Commissioner Ontario Human Rights Commission 180 Dundas Street West, Suite 900 Toronto, Ontario M7A 2R9 Phone: (416) 326-9511 Toll Free: 1-800-387-9080 Email: info@ohrc.on.ca

Information on how and to whom to make a complaint about the OHRC regarding staff, policy or operational procedure, is available here.


TOPICS: Weird Stuff
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To: GeronL

Here in California, it already is the law, passed by the legislature and signed by the governor. In Maine, their Supreme Court mandated it within the past week.


21 posted on 02/02/2014 2:27:01 AM PST by Bob
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To: Morgana

Someone please clear something up for me...If a “transgendered male” is naked in front of a woman and sprouts a chubby, are they truly transgendered? Or is this physical response to the “opposite sex” just a one off?


22 posted on 02/02/2014 2:28:09 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: Morgana
I haven't read the article, and don't intend to, but a thought occured to me ...

All this transgender stuff ...

so a guy wants to piss in a ladies room or change in a ladies changeing room, etc ...

WHY?

NO ONE ever asks that question.

So I analyzed it a bit ....

A guy transgender wants to be with ladies because he's more comfortable being naked around ladies and not men ... right ?

SO DO ABOUT 70% OF THE HETERO MALE POPULATION

AND ...

why don't we see lady transgender demanding to be allowed in men's rooms?

OK ... that's my rant ... it's all bullshit.

23 posted on 02/02/2014 2:44:45 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Morgana

If I operated a gym and had to deal with these mentally ill “customers”, I would change the signs on the changing rooms. I’d keep the nice, big “MEN” and “Women” on the sign, but explain in much smaller letters that the sorting is by anatomy, not by gender, and that those with male genitalia must use the changing room labeled “MEN” regardless of gender, and similarly for those with female genitalia.


24 posted on 02/02/2014 3:05:31 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

“If I operated a gym and had to deal with these mentally ill “customers”, I would change the signs on the changing rooms.”

My gym recently finished an expansion project. In addition to the two traditional facilities, we now sport a “gender neutral” room. I haven’t noticed anyone using it. Must be some big plans in the pipeline.


25 posted on 02/02/2014 3:16:36 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: Morgana

Canada...they are quite different up there.


26 posted on 02/02/2014 3:34:18 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: faithhopecharity

Used to be a guy in a girls’ room would be ushered out


Back when men were men they would have had the crap beat out of them, dragged out of the room and had it done all over again while the police simply looked the other way.

Those were the good old days when men were men.


27 posted on 02/02/2014 4:13:19 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Morgana

I have a rule: I regard anybody who uses the words “diversity” and “inclusion” in the modern sense as most likely being a scoundrel. Liberals use those words as a cover to inflict their perverted views and actions on the public.


28 posted on 02/02/2014 4:41:38 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Morgana

The liberals in the courts and elsewhere in positions of civil authority really need to be replaced with people who have at least a couple of brain cells that communicate.

I served on an aircraft carrier in the early ‘60s and there were separate showers. No one walked out of a shower without a towel wrapped around themselves. Same was true for my 20+ years at a country club, with separate showers and the towels. ....No one normal likes to see members of their same sex walking around naked; it’s disgusting to even think about.


29 posted on 02/02/2014 4:51:48 AM PST by octex
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To: Norm Lenhart

Funny you should say that. “Laughing in their faces” has ALWAYS been my FIRST response to a situation like this. (And it HAS happened to me!)

You would be astounded as to how fast Derisive Laughter “Disarms” an aroused male.


30 posted on 02/02/2014 5:20:38 AM PST by left that other site
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To: Morgana

>>”I don’t know, obviously, whether the person you encountered was truly trans, or merely a poseur getting his kicks,” Gallinger wrote.

Technically, a “trans” is a poseur since they are pretending to be something they are not.

Naked guy in the women’s bathroom is just a pervert taking advantage of stupid liberal laws that ignore reality in favor of feelings.


31 posted on 02/02/2014 6:00:49 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: driftdiver

Well ya, that’s the best option of course, but.... ;)


32 posted on 02/02/2014 6:13:06 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: left that other site; KC_Lion; Windflier

People on the right really need to read “The 48 Laws of Power”. Robert Greene. Get the book, study it and understand the way today’s world functions.

People empower liberals by always looking at their crying over trees stupidity and just walking away shaking their heads. They empower the abortion BS by being “above’ calling them what they are. They empower the Obamas of the world by letting BS trump bravery.

What they get for their inaction is an emboldened left wing, but worse, they have lulled themselves into a state of resignation and ‘do-nothingness’. It has devolved to the point where conservatives...YES...C O N S E R V A T I V E S...are actually afraid to say anything out of pure fear they will lose something if they do. Job. Friends. Personal Property. Afraid. Well many should be. When you have one side unafraid to do any outrageous thing, why shouldn’t they? Not like they carry the burden of morality to hold them back.

Power is taken. Nor given. If we collectively want back into power, we have to take it. And that means gutting the source of the opposition’s power.

Our own fear.


33 posted on 02/02/2014 6:23:39 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: stormhill

gender may not be determined by genitalia, but genitalia is most definatley determined by genitalia. there lies the problem

who you gonna believe? your lying eyes or your PC?

a weighty question indeed deserving much deliberation by the ontario government


34 posted on 02/02/2014 6:44:27 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: Artie

“Someone please clear something up for me...If a “transgendered male” is naked in front of a woman and sprouts a chubby, are they truly transgendered? Or is this physical response to the “opposite sex” just a one off?”

That transgendered male is obviously a lesbian.


35 posted on 02/02/2014 7:04:07 AM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: bk1000

“That transgendered male is obviously a lesbian.”

Doesn’t Rush always say that he is a male lesbian?


36 posted on 02/02/2014 8:40:05 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Cyber Liberty
we would but they never show up

Very funny but also very true.

The difference between the sexes in a (ahem) nutshell.

37 posted on 02/02/2014 8:46:39 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Cyber Liberty
Ist that a fitting room or a rest room? I’ve seen both.

By rest room I was referring to where the toilets are.

38 posted on 02/02/2014 9:07:16 AM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: luvbach1

Oh, that’s what I thought. I was wondering because the topic of the thread was fitting rooms. Sorry I got confused....

(I’m not the only once confused. The person in the story can’t keep straight what his equipment is.)


39 posted on 02/02/2014 9:17:41 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty

You’re right, fitting rooms was the topic but it reminded me of desperate women coming into Men’s restrooms.


40 posted on 02/02/2014 9:26:14 AM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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