That is actually pretty impressive. So, why did you chuck all that away and begin praying at the alter of Rossi?
Rossi set the system up the way he chose to. Why he made certain choices may have been a simple as the three phase circuit was the highest power one where he was working. I don't know, and short of emailing him no way to find out.
Not curious at all, it all makes perfect sense, yes? You are bsing me, you don't find that curious at all, you would accept that excuse from a coworker and maybe we should ask Rossi himself why he made such a hash of a simple experiment? He only answers fawning letters so you are in a unique place in this regard, hop to it.
But at least one of the demos had an oscilloscope on the output of his control box monitoring the power feed to his reactor. This was one of the first two trials in Bologna. Said oscilloscope is not mentioned in the reports from those, but it was there and working, so the witnesses had access to the wave-form feeding the reactor.
An oscilloscope is a tool, not a panacea. Was it set correctly? Correct time base, trigger set on the correct waveform. I've got a Tek 7904a and every 7000 series module that comes with it and guess what, it's a 500mhz scope but select the one time base and one vertical amp for the slower 7000 series that I have and you only see the low frequency waveform. A scope isn't a magic box, it has to be read. Again, this sounds like a cynical attempt to appear legit.
Again, his choice. If you want to know....ask him.
Lets look at this. I ask him, and he's not going to say, hey, you caught me, I am scamming, really lame and should be beneath you but I guess there's no limit to the depths of human depravity when your reality is slipping away.
Again, his choice. It obviously made sense to him.
Too bad it doesn't make sense to anyone else except for his cheer leading squad.
Me"Guilty as charged, but I have laid out a logical reason for my speculation,yes?
You: No. It's pretty obvious you will go to any lengths to support Rossi. Allow me a little analysis. You've always been smarter than most people and you obviously have an education but you also have an arrogance about you that us unwashed masses cannot know what you and Rossi seem to know and understand. Pretty typical if not pedantic and pathetic. Rule#1, there's always someone bigger, smarter or badder.
What, exactly does this have to do with the calibration of the IR camera and how it was calibrated.
That's laid out in the article, I just thought it was too funny how 900 watts becomes 360 watts. It's not who votes who counts but who counts the votes.
Stupidity.
And here I thought we understood each other, I shall forever be shamed by your one word put down, oh my.
No, Levi was a friend of FOCARDI. There is zip evidence that Rossi even knew Levi before the demonstration(s). They may well have become friends since.
You were saying?
Oh, please. A key part of being a scientist is exactly to rise above your "human nature" and maintain a dispassionate and impartial scrutiny of the data. The only thing you "smell" is your upper lip.
You know, for $5.95 and my ten page pamphlet, you too can use the tools of derision successfully.
For that single test. You conveniently forget that there were several demos, for which the observers "did" have full access to the control system.
Link please, can we get an amen on the number of tests conducted during May of 2013??? Seems rather nebulous to me, let's get the number of tests stipulated to so you don't have an out by way of the other test where everything went well.
Uh, no. See above point. Unless you think Rossi re-designed his control system differently for every test.
I actually do think that but not for the reason you think. Rossi isn't an idiot, just amoral so he listens to his critics and games the next test to quiet the critics of the last test. Scam is such a loaded word, how about fraud?
Another social argument. I have no idea why he did. But it is basically irrelevant to analyzing the data from the different tests.
Bollocks, I so love that word. You, who did put in the time for a real PhD have no problem with what Rossi did, you know, I think you're lying to yourself.
Want to see a fool?? Look in your mirror.
I would but I was in a horrible accident and can no longer face looking at myself, thank you for bringing up that painful memory.
maybe we should ask Rossi himself why he made such a hash of a simple experiment?
***Because he gives crappy demos, which is what I’ve been saying for a long time now. To believe he’s some kind of super-magician pulling the wool over PhD scientists stretches the boundaries of rationality. Or...is it a conspiracy? Yet again stretching the boundaries of rationality.
Low and behold, a 2011 interview with Levy by Krivit about Rossi. He says that three years before 2011, he heard from Focardi about Rossi. He says he saw the ecat on December 2010.
***Levi didn’t start out as his buddy. He was very suspicious at first.
From the interview you posted:
• He has worked with Focardi on other projects and respects him.
• Levi has been following Rossi and Focardi’s work for three years but only examined the e-cat itself on December 16, 2010. He did extensive testing of the e-cat and apparently believes Rossi’s claims.
• Levi is a member of the US group the Skeptic’s Society and he applied their “baloney detector kit.” (A set of parameters for the detection of fraud developed by the late Carl Sagan) to the e-cat and found it was not baloney.
• Levi said he investigated the e-cat because it is his duty as a scientist. He also wanted to protect the University of Bologna’s reputation from a possible fraud.
• Levi did admit that the e-cat was developed in what he called an “industrial” and not a research environment.
• The January e-cat news conference and demonstration by Rossi and Focardi was done in order to show the scientific community the validity of the e-cat and protect Focardi’s reputation.
• Levi seems to be concerned about Focardi’s reputation and is trying to protect it.
• Levi said other scientists including chemists have examined the e-cat and verified some of the results.
Levi also gave some interesting quotes in response to Krivit’s questions.
When asked why he investigated the e-cat, Levi said: “You must go and look by yourself. It is one of my duties I am a researcher I am paid by public money. Something very important was going on with the name of the University of Bologna. It was my duty to know if it was something real. If it is something real we must make research on it.”
When asked if the e-cat represents a new physics or not, Levi said: “There is not a new quantum mechanics but some new phenomenon.”
Persons who want to make up their mind should definitely take a look at all five parts of Levi’s interview.
I didn't. That is another false assumption on your part.
"Not curious at all, it all makes perfect sense, yes? You are bsing me, you don't find that curious at all, you would accept that excuse from a coworker and maybe we should ask Rossi himself why he made such a hash of a simple experiment? He only answers fawning letters so you are in a unique place in this regard, hop to it."
I repeat, I have no idea why he did it that way. I don't have the time to waste investigating it at this late date.
I'm in the process of ramping up a major design effort on the oceanographic systems, and have even less time (as little as that was) to waste.
"An oscilloscope is a tool, not a panacea. Was it set correctly? Correct time base, trigger set on the correct waveform. I've got a Tek 7904a and every 7000 series module that comes with it and guess what, it's a 500mhz scope but select the one time base and one vertical amp for the slower 7000 series that I have and you only see the low frequency waveform. A scope isn't a magic box, it has to be read. Again, this sounds like a cynical attempt to appear legit.
LOL. Guess what...I've used 'scopes, too. I even owned one 'til technology outstripped it. As usual, your assumption is that all the guys who witnessed that demonstration were not familiar with 'scopes. I would bet that any of the physicists there(there were several) knew how to use them.
"Lets look at this. I ask him, and he's not going to say, hey, you caught me, I am scamming, really lame and should be beneath you but I guess there's no limit to the depths of human depravity when your reality is slipping away.
And maybe he would give an answer that makes perfect sense. Another possibility is that he was targeting his equipment for the US market, and designed it to run on 110 and didn't want to buy a high-power stepdown transformer. Again you are ASSUMING that your "criminal fraud" meme is the only possible one.
"Too bad it doesn't make sense to anyone else except for his cheer leading squad.
LOL. Just because I see more possibile explanations makes me his "cheering squad".
You: No. It's pretty obvious you will go to any lengths to support Rossi.
Another false assumption.
"Allow me a little analysis. You've always been smarter than most people and you obviously have an education but you also have an arrogance about you that us unwashed masses cannot know what you and Rossi seem to know and understand. Pretty typical if not pedantic and pathetic. Rule#1, there's always someone bigger, smarter or badder.
LOL. I've known and worked with a lot of people smarter than I am. I'm a farm boy, raised with cow-shit between my toes, so I "am" (or was) one of the "unwashed masses".
Clue..... I know very well that I am not, let us say, a "top tier" intellect. My sister in law (the geophysicist) "is" one of those (and nuttier than a fruitcake). I fit at the level of "very bright but not genius". What I do have is LOTS (and lots) of experience, and a "knack" for looking at two pieces of technology and seeing ways they can fit together that other people haven't.
"That's laid out in the article, I just thought it was too funny how 900 watts becomes 360 watts. It's not who votes who counts but who counts the votes."
Didn't look at it. No time.
"Low and behold, a 2011 interview with Levy by Krivit about Rossi. He says that three years before 2011, he heard from Focardi about Rossi. He says he saw the ecat on December 2010. You were saying?
"Hearing about Rossi" from Focardi and "having seen the E-Cat" hardly translates into them being close friends. And certainly not close enough friends to falsify test data.
"Link please, can we get an amen on the number of tests conducted during May of 2013??? Seems rather nebulous to me, let's get the number of tests stipulated to so you don't have an out by way of the other test where everything went well.
Nope, not gonna happen. No time. It "was" one of the first two done in Bologna (before the high-flow overnight run). Best I can do right now.
"I actually do think that but not for the reason you think. Rossi isn't an idiot, just amoral so he listens to his critics and games the next test to quiet the critics of the last test. Scam is such a loaded word, how about fraud?
Sorry, not buying it.
"Bollocks, I so love that word. You, who did put in the time for a real PhD have no problem with what Rossi did, you know, I think you're lying to yourself.
Cheez. Look....there is a lot about what Rossi did that I don't understand, but there is enough that I "do" understand that I don't buy the "it's all a scam" idea that seems to be the only option possible for you. And no, I'm not lying to myself (or anyone else).
"I would but I was in a horrible accident and can no longer face looking at myself, thank you for bringing up that painful memory.
It appears that the injury also turned you into a monomaniac. Interesting how being exposed to the word "Rossi" turns you into a foaming-at-the-mouth nutter. Or perhaps one of the Three Stooges (".....slowly I turned, step-by-step, inch-by-inch.....")